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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5065859" data-attributes="member: 2011">First off, yes I am currently playing a Hybrid Barbarian Wizard in a game. Are you running a Hybrid currently?Second, just because you disagree with people does not mean that they do not comprehend the rules. What a lame thing to write. Hybrid Talent is not very strong compared to multiple class features and Hybrid PCs give up more class features than they gain.Third, each PC gets 18 feats over the lifetime of the PC. Not having to use one of them for a feat tax for Hybrid is totally reasonable. The issue is lack of feats at low level. The number of class features that Hybrids get pales to the number of class features that non-Hybrids get.Nonsense. Your Paladin / Whatever has plate armor. Big deal. What did he give up to gain this?Well, from a normal Paladin, he gave up Lay on Hands, he gives up his Class Divinity, he gives up +1 to 2 out of 3 defenses, his Divine Challenge is a lot weaker, and he already had Plate.As an example, Paladin/Cleric. He gave up the Paladin stuff and a feat and hit points and healing surges, and gained Healer's Lore, a single Healing Word per encounter, and +1 Will. And he added some MAD to the PC. Hmmm. How exactly is he that much stronger than a normal Paladin? Sure, with the proper powers and feats, he can heal better than before, but he cannot fight better than before. He basically gives up fighting effeciency to gain healing. Or conversely, a Cleric turned into a Paladin/Cleric gives up healing in order to fight more efficiently.Are there some stronger Hybrid combinations? Sure.Are they so strong that giving Hybrid Talent as a class feature instead of a feat would make them broken? No. Not even close. In fact, it would make some of the weaker Hybrids (of which there are a ton) slighty more worthwhile.So, I think your opinion here that handing the Hybrid Talent out for free is unbalanced ignores the real game balance here. We are talking a single feat (tax) here.If you are so convinced that you are right, post a first level Hybrid where giving him the Hybrid Talent for free would break the PC.</blockquote>

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