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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stuntman" data-source="post: 5068081" data-attributes="member: 84817">My impression of hybrids (and multiclassing) is that they are aimed at players who want a character with an unusual background or backstory.  I think that if this is what is important to you, optimising is probably less important.  Hybrids and multiclassing may be less optimal, but it is far from unplayable for most combinations.  I think that what the designers are trying to avoid are optimised builds that are mostly hybrids or multiclassed.Hybrids by their very nature are difficult to balance properly with single classed characters.  Some combos will be better than others.  The designers could have set the average hybrid's power level to be less, equal to or greater than the average single classed character.  If they set the average power level of hybrids to be greater, then perhaps almost all hybrids are playable, but anyone who wants to optimise will play a hybrid.  If hybrids are equal then most optimised builds will be hybrids.  If hybrids are lower, then perhaps few optimised builds will be hybrids.I do not believe that you can make a hybrid system in 4E where every single hybrid combo is equally balanced with single classed characters.  Perhaps there will be a future edition that you can do it, but not in 4E.  I think that ideally hybrids (all combos) should be roughly equal to single classed characters.  In reality, if it is not achievable, the choice that the designers made was to err on the side of being a little underpowered.  At least, I do not feel it is so underpowered that most hybrid combos cannot make meaningful contributions in a party.In my experience with hybrids so far, they perform well enough that the party does not feel handicapped.  One hybrid is designed to fit a character concept and he performs quite well.  Another tried to take advantage of a combo of powers, but that combo doesn't seem to work well in practice.  Still, without trying the combo, it still performs quite well.</blockquote>

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