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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5159425" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>I would think at low levels Righteous Brand WOULD be pretty hard to avoid, but then Astral Seal is fairly ridiculous. Its actually a LOT better than Recovery Strike BTW when you work out the numbers. </p><p></p><p>I don't think there's anything wrong with this hybrid. I think you can do pretty similar stuff with either a STR cleric or a STR Paladin but at least combining them is pretty much piling identical stat requirements on top of each other. Given the limited options for power choices in the two underlying builds combining them is probably not a bad idea either. Throw in a good domain feat or CD and things could be interesting.</p><p></p><p>You could also up your healing ability by ditching the Paladin armor thing. Its NICE, but you could spend that Hybrid Talent feat in other interesting ways. Chainmail is not exactly bad and there are plenty of good chain enchantments for clerics like Astral Fire. You can always spend a single feat to up yourself to scale, which honestly is on a par with plate in most respects. Even with chain you can get some pretty silly AC as Masterwork kicks in pretty quickly. The 9th level STR cleric in my main game is pushing an AC in the mid 20's with +3 Astral Fire Chain and that is really plenty of AC! Even the +2 variety will do a pretty good job. This also frees you up more for getting a honking big weapon, which NEVER hurts. Heck, with a high enough STR and say a fullblade even Power Attack is at least not a terrible option anymore.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5159425, member: 82106"] I would think at low levels Righteous Brand WOULD be pretty hard to avoid, but then Astral Seal is fairly ridiculous. Its actually a LOT better than Recovery Strike BTW when you work out the numbers. I don't think there's anything wrong with this hybrid. I think you can do pretty similar stuff with either a STR cleric or a STR Paladin but at least combining them is pretty much piling identical stat requirements on top of each other. Given the limited options for power choices in the two underlying builds combining them is probably not a bad idea either. Throw in a good domain feat or CD and things could be interesting. You could also up your healing ability by ditching the Paladin armor thing. Its NICE, but you could spend that Hybrid Talent feat in other interesting ways. Chainmail is not exactly bad and there are plenty of good chain enchantments for clerics like Astral Fire. You can always spend a single feat to up yourself to scale, which honestly is on a par with plate in most respects. Even with chain you can get some pretty silly AC as Masterwork kicks in pretty quickly. The 9th level STR cleric in my main game is pushing an AC in the mid 20's with +3 Astral Fire Chain and that is really plenty of AC! Even the +2 variety will do a pretty good job. This also frees you up more for getting a honking big weapon, which NEVER hurts. Heck, with a high enough STR and say a fullblade even Power Attack is at least not a terrible option anymore. [/QUOTE]
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