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<blockquote data-quote="CovertOps" data-source="post: 5160674" data-attributes="member: 65152"><p>All I'm saying is make sure you know what you're losing and what you're getting:</p><p></p><p>Differences between Paladin and Hybrid Paladin:</p><p></p><p>Armor (Plate and Heavy Shield) (feat - Hybrid Talent)</p><p>No Channel Divinity (feat - Hybrid Talent)</p><p>No Lay on Hands (can't even take this as a Hybrid Talent)</p><p>Divine Challenge requires the use of your once per round Immediate (reaction) action to deal it's damage (this essentially limits powers you can pick from - see below).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Differences between Cleric and Hybrid Cleric:</p><p></p><p>Armor (Chain) (feat - Hybrid Talent)</p><p>No Channel Divinity (feat - Hybrid Talent)</p><p>No Ritual Casting (feat)</p><p>Modified Healing Word (1/enc instead of 2/enc) (loss of power)</p><p>*NOTE: Healer's Lore only works with Cleric powers.</p><p></p><p>You have four options to spend your ONE Hybrid Talent feat on at level 1 and IIRC you don't get another pick until level 11.</p><p></p><p>Hybrid restrictions:</p><p></p><p>Yes you get twice as many power to pick from, BUT....</p><p>You are required to have one of each type from each class (at-will, encounter, daily, utility). At first level this manifests only in the at-wills as this is the only area you have 2 choices. Once you hit level 3 you'll be forced to pick up an encounter power of the other class (if you have a level 1 Paladin Enc. then you'll have to get a level 3 Cleric Enc.). You'll be limited to the STR based Paladin powers as you don't have the CHA to make any of those useful. In Cleric you'll have a little more leeway, but you'll have to keep up both a magic weapon AND a magic Holy Symbol/implement as you gain levels to keep your WIS based powers competitive and forget rider effects based on CHA for either class...this makes some powers less than useful. If you want to apply your Divine Challenge damage to anything you'll have to avoid powers that are "Immediate" (interrupt or reaction) as they will compete for your once per round action.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CovertOps, post: 5160674, member: 65152"] All I'm saying is make sure you know what you're losing and what you're getting: Differences between Paladin and Hybrid Paladin: Armor (Plate and Heavy Shield) (feat - Hybrid Talent) No Channel Divinity (feat - Hybrid Talent) No Lay on Hands (can't even take this as a Hybrid Talent) Divine Challenge requires the use of your once per round Immediate (reaction) action to deal it's damage (this essentially limits powers you can pick from - see below). Differences between Cleric and Hybrid Cleric: Armor (Chain) (feat - Hybrid Talent) No Channel Divinity (feat - Hybrid Talent) No Ritual Casting (feat) Modified Healing Word (1/enc instead of 2/enc) (loss of power) *NOTE: Healer's Lore only works with Cleric powers. You have four options to spend your ONE Hybrid Talent feat on at level 1 and IIRC you don't get another pick until level 11. Hybrid restrictions: Yes you get twice as many power to pick from, BUT.... You are required to have one of each type from each class (at-will, encounter, daily, utility). At first level this manifests only in the at-wills as this is the only area you have 2 choices. Once you hit level 3 you'll be forced to pick up an encounter power of the other class (if you have a level 1 Paladin Enc. then you'll have to get a level 3 Cleric Enc.). You'll be limited to the STR based Paladin powers as you don't have the CHA to make any of those useful. In Cleric you'll have a little more leeway, but you'll have to keep up both a magic weapon AND a magic Holy Symbol/implement as you gain levels to keep your WIS based powers competitive and forget rider effects based on CHA for either class...this makes some powers less than useful. If you want to apply your Divine Challenge damage to anything you'll have to avoid powers that are "Immediate" (interrupt or reaction) as they will compete for your once per round action. [/QUOTE]
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