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<blockquote data-quote="Thornir Alekeg" data-source="post: 1524787" data-attributes="member: 15651"><p>OK, I'm confused. Did you just toss in a fireball without looking or did your DM give you any kind of description of the room? Did he describe it as "a very small room" or "you see a wall a short distance from the door"? Map or no map, you should be able to have to room described to some degree unless you aren't looking in first like if you operate like some kind of strike team who just opens doors and tosses spells in. </p><p></p><p>Now, you say you told your party to move away from the door, you had an idea. Did the DM assume they were close because you didn't tell the others what your idea was? Why didn;t you? Would it be using game terms to say: "move away from the door, I'm going to cast Fireball," because Fireball is a game term? Do spells in your campaign not have any kind of name, then? Would it have been ok to say "move away from the door, I'm going to release a ball of flame into the room," which would allow the players to state that they were standing back away from the door?</p><p></p><p>If I were DMing this situation (but I wouldn't be since I use a mat), I would have asked if the others were standing closer to the door than the mage or further back from the door. I also would have described the room to give a rough estimate about its size (I can tell the difference between a room that is about 10 X 10 versus one that is 20 X 20, I assume seasoned adventurers could do the same) before you cast your spell.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thornir Alekeg, post: 1524787, member: 15651"] OK, I'm confused. Did you just toss in a fireball without looking or did your DM give you any kind of description of the room? Did he describe it as "a very small room" or "you see a wall a short distance from the door"? Map or no map, you should be able to have to room described to some degree unless you aren't looking in first like if you operate like some kind of strike team who just opens doors and tosses spells in. Now, you say you told your party to move away from the door, you had an idea. Did the DM assume they were close because you didn't tell the others what your idea was? Why didn;t you? Would it be using game terms to say: "move away from the door, I'm going to cast Fireball," because Fireball is a game term? Do spells in your campaign not have any kind of name, then? Would it have been ok to say "move away from the door, I'm going to release a ball of flame into the room," which would allow the players to state that they were standing back away from the door? If I were DMing this situation (but I wouldn't be since I use a mat), I would have asked if the others were standing closer to the door than the mage or further back from the door. I also would have described the room to give a rough estimate about its size (I can tell the difference between a room that is about 10 X 10 versus one that is 20 X 20, I assume seasoned adventurers could do the same) before you cast your spell. [/QUOTE]
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