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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tessarael" data-source="post: 9862979" data-attributes="member: 12909">Looking at the A5E spell <a href="https://a5e.tools/spell/find-steed" target="_blank">Find Steed</a>, it would be great if there were some additional non-fiendish options when using a 4th level spell slot. Serathiel’s Find Fiendish Steed has these options for the rare variant of the spell, when using a 4th level spell slot.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">CR 3 <a href="https://a5e.tools/node/1687" target="_blank">Hell Hound</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">CR 3 <a href="https://a5e.tools/node/1746" target="_blank">Nightmare</a></li> </ul>The 4th level 5E spell <a href="https://5e.tools/spells/find-greater-steed-xge.html" target="_blank">Greater Find Steed</a> lists these options for alternative steeds:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">CR 1 <a href="https://a5e.tools/node/1928" target="_blank">Dire Wolf</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">CR 2 <a href="https://5e.tools/bestiary/dragonnel-ftd.html" target="_blank">Dragonnel</a> - this link is to the 5E Dragonnel, as there is no A5E equivalent.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">CR 3 <a href="https://a5e.tools/node/1662" target="_blank">Griffon</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">CR 2 <a href="https://a5e.tools/node/1761" target="_blank">Pegasus</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">CR 2 <a href="https://a5e.tools/node/1762" target="_blank">Peryton</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">CR 2 <a href="https://a5e.tools/node/1990" target="_blank">Rhinocerus</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">CR 2 <a href="https://a5e.tools/node/1994" target="_blank">Saber-Toothed Tiger</a></li> </ul>I think that all of these are good options for mounts for higher level Heralds and others who have access to the spell, such as a <a href="https://a5e.tools/node/3694" target="_blank">Loremaster</a> with the Summoning school.If it takes researching a rare variant of the 2nd level Find Steed spell, that can be done in about 4 to 6 weeks of research for a cost of 600 to 900gp. This depends on how good the character is at Arcana to make the DC 16 spell craft check (see A5E core rulebook pages 431-432).One possible issue with the A5E version of Find Steed as written is that the steed gets +20 HP per spell slot level above 2nd. That is good for the standard steeds, with a 4th level spell slot giving +40 HP to a Warhorse's base 30 HP for a total of 70 HP. However, for the higher level mounts with the rare spell, it may be too good. For example, a Nightmare has 68 HP, so with +40 HP, it would have a total of 108 HP. That may be reasonable for the mount of a level 13+ Herald, but less so for a level 7 Loremaster Bard.As a DM, I'd be inclined to limit the HP increase for the better mount options. If using a 4th level spell slot, maybe +40 HP If the mount is CR 1 or less, +20 HP if CR 2, or no HP bonus if they are CR 3. To make this rule simpler and more generic, maybe +20 HP per spell slot level above 2nd or above the CR of the mount, so CR 3 creatures get +20 HP with a 4th level slot, and others get +40 HP.Thoughts? Has anyone else used the rare variant of the A5E Find Steed spell and found it worked well, or was sometimes over-powered in your campaign?</blockquote>

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