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<blockquote data-quote="Geron Raveneye" data-source="post: 3813224" data-attributes="member: 2268"><p>So basically you're setting yourself up as the foremost expert and authority on what others are supposed to think about 3E/4E art in D&D, hmm? You really think it'll change anything if you point to every picture posted here, claiming "NOT ANIME" or "NOT VALID" or "COULD BE IN A COMIC BOOK"? Just curious, because I can't take it at all serious...and I'm not one of those "D&D is teh animeh!" boogeymen. People use the expression to short-hand their dislikes about certain artwork, and this here won't budge anybody to do differently.</p><p></p><p>And to be honest, trying to find "100% anime" in D&D is completely beside the point of those who use the word in context with D&D. It has already been mentioned that "anime" is meant to describe a lot of factors that the respective person percieves as being derived from anime/manga, not that the picture in question could serve as a cell in Inu Yasha. Narrowing the whole thing doen to "killer kawaii" style only helps to try and ridicule the opinions of those who actually try to discuss anime/manga influences on D&D art seriously, and isn't helping either. And the whole argument chain about "western comics have been influenced by manga/anime, so most pics would feel right at home in X-Men" is a hilarious cop-out, seeing how the discussion of "mangafication" is going through the comics fandom just as much, if not more. Going "It's not Inu Yasha, so you're wrong!" isn't really helpful...trying to make it look like a "serious contest" doesn't make it better either. Basically, what you're doing is trying to set your opinion of what looks like it was inspired by anime rather than e.g. Frazetta up as the primary one, and yourself as final arbiter of it.</p><p></p><p>If you want to deny that there is an influence of anime/manga styles in D&D artwork, or fantasy artwork as a whole, that's your personal shtick (to crib from hong), but trying to make yourself the final authority on it and trying to suppress the opinions of others by setting your opinion up as the "only right" one is bollocks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Geron Raveneye, post: 3813224, member: 2268"] So basically you're setting yourself up as the foremost expert and authority on what others are supposed to think about 3E/4E art in D&D, hmm? You really think it'll change anything if you point to every picture posted here, claiming "NOT ANIME" or "NOT VALID" or "COULD BE IN A COMIC BOOK"? Just curious, because I can't take it at all serious...and I'm not one of those "D&D is teh animeh!" boogeymen. People use the expression to short-hand their dislikes about certain artwork, and this here won't budge anybody to do differently. And to be honest, trying to find "100% anime" in D&D is completely beside the point of those who use the word in context with D&D. It has already been mentioned that "anime" is meant to describe a lot of factors that the respective person percieves as being derived from anime/manga, not that the picture in question could serve as a cell in Inu Yasha. Narrowing the whole thing doen to "killer kawaii" style only helps to try and ridicule the opinions of those who actually try to discuss anime/manga influences on D&D art seriously, and isn't helping either. And the whole argument chain about "western comics have been influenced by manga/anime, so most pics would feel right at home in X-Men" is a hilarious cop-out, seeing how the discussion of "mangafication" is going through the comics fandom just as much, if not more. Going "It's not Inu Yasha, so you're wrong!" isn't really helpful...trying to make it look like a "serious contest" doesn't make it better either. Basically, what you're doing is trying to set your opinion of what looks like it was inspired by anime rather than e.g. Frazetta up as the primary one, and yourself as final arbiter of it. If you want to deny that there is an influence of anime/manga styles in D&D artwork, or fantasy artwork as a whole, that's your personal shtick (to crib from hong), but trying to make yourself the final authority on it and trying to suppress the opinions of others by setting your opinion up as the "only right" one is bollocks. [/QUOTE]
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