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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3853581" data-attributes="member: 22779">The problem is, your hot/cold analogy isn't really applicable.  Hot and cold are relative terms.  Always.  Anime is not.  It's a genre term.  And, as such, it exists outside of any other considerations.  Anime is a descriptor for a specific set of styles and themes, just like any other genre word.  Yes, there is all sorts of fuzziness at the outskirts of the genre, but, that doesn't make it relative, it just means that there is overlap between different genres and certain works are more difficult to place within one or the other.  It's not about fixing the definition for all time.  It's about using a word in the way it's meant to be used.  Again, should we change the definition of a word to satisfy people who use the term incorrectly?An absolutely beautiful example of what we're talking about just cropped up in <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=210036&page=1" target="_blank">another thread</a>:In the same paragraph, he's equating Sword and Sorcery fantasy with Tolkien.  Yet, S&S fantasy as a genre is pretty much the complete opposite of Tolkien and was, in fact, coined as a term as a reaction to Tolkien's High Fantasy works.  In other words, Rounser here is dead wrong in his use of the term.  He's used the wrong term to make his point.  It doesn't mean what he thinks it means.So, should we simply ignore this and guess what his point is or should we challenge it and ask for clarification?  Me, I've been challenging people on this anime thing for years.  Dozens to times I've asked people to provide examples whenever I've seen the whole "3e art is anime" thing pop up.  And, until this thread, I never ever got an answer.So, no, it is not acceptable IMO, to simply let sloppy thinking slide.  If you want to make a point, make it.  Using the wrong words doesn't get your point across.  It's not about fixing a definition in stone, it's about being able to better communicate.  Again, I could say that 3e art is Surrealist.  I'd be wrong.  I'm sure I could probably point to some Surrealist influences somewhere in some book, but, 3e art is by no means Surrealist.  So, should I never be challenged if I state that 3e art is Surrealist?  Should it just be ignored and people should instead guess what I'm trying to say?  I don't think so.  I've got zero problems with someone not liking the art.  Heck, there's lots of art that I don't like.  My beef is when people are using the wrong words to make their point and then acting like it should be self evident what they mean.  Say what you mean or don't bother.</blockquote>

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