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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 3853917" data-attributes="member: 151">I should have been more clear.  I was referring to popular art in the genre, there, but that should have been a separate thought.  There are two points there, not one.  The first point is that gamers have come to expect more from a game than they did previously.  For an example, I started <a href="http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=210497" target="_blank">this poll.</a>  Clearly, the greater majority considered a skill system in D&D to be a necessity.  At this count, 61 of 79 respondents would like a skill system in D&D.  Popular art in the game genre HAS moved on...or, since you seem to find that particular phrase loaded in some way, has continued to evolve.  My point in the sentence that followed your quote was that most of the current batch of D&D artists grew up with D&D and a much different cultural mix than those artists back in the 70s and early 80s.  Frank Frazetta's influence filters down to Brom, but Brom certainly isn't Frank Frazetta.  Moebius's work directly influenced Geoff Darrow, but again, they aren't the same.  Frank Miller was directly influence by Kazuo Koike, but not solely by him...and Miller in turn influenced many modern artists.  Genre art, like all art, is not static.  It was not my intention to infer that art 'moving on' meant that it was somehow intrinsically better, though it was my intention to say that about the rules.  Not properly separating those two points was a failing on my part.  Clearly, Jackson Pollack doesn't invalidate Leanardo Da Vinci, any more than WAR's work has dampened people's love for Dave Trampier's work.  But the kind of artwork that is being produced HAS changed, and what fans expect to see in a fantasy work has changed, as well.  Whether it's changed for good or ill is a matter of opinion, but clearly works move on.  Compare the coves of most SF novels from the 50s, 60s and 70s, for example.  Note the moves from the abstract to the representative.    Compare the covers for this book, an old favorite, called "Hospital Station", by James White (first in the Sector General collections).<img src="http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/n2/n14150.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/99/HospitalStation1962Paperback.png/180px-HospitalStation1962Paperback.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /><img src="http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/70/a9/3eff4310fca0fe316b8d4010._AA240_.L.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />This is an example of what I meant.</blockquote>

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