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<blockquote data-quote="Mercule" data-source="post: 3972950" data-attributes="member: 5100"><p>True. I probably should have abandoned the thread before getting irritable (which is more true than intolerant).</p><p></p><p>There is a cultural difference between the East and the West -- someone stop me if I'm wrong there. Sometimes the differences can be as subtle as how a word or a name rolls off the tongue.</p><p></p><p>I can't honestly say that I only like pseudo-Medieval European fantasy, because that isn't true. I can honestly say that those elements that I identify as Eastern (meaning that they evoke an Eastern feel to me, not that I scholarly research them and find them to have definitively originated in the East), I dislike.</p><p></p><p>That does not make those elements bad. Nor does it make peopel who like/prefer those elements bad. It most certainly does not men that Eastern culture is bad. It means that I have a preferrence. Nothing more, nothing less.</p><p></p><p>I'm quite certain that all of the things I dislike aren't even Eastern and there are some Eastern elements I'd welcome in a game. But, it gets the 80/20 of my meaning across.</p><p></p><p>The discussion is pointless, though. If I say "I don't like anime," the stock response is either "You haven't seen good anime, then. There are a lot of types of anime," or, "Anime uses he same tropes as lots of Western movies/cartoons," or, "How could you not like anime? It has X, Y, and Z." Usually, that's followed up with a request to be specific about my dislkes. </p><p></p><p>Those specifics are then rebutted by incredibly vague generalizations. For example, "I don't like flowery names," is countered with, "Western styles have names, too."</p><p></p><p>Alternatively, I may be counciled to broaden my horizons and see what I think of some anime-inspired elements. Or, I could just change the names and/or flavor text. Yeah, right. I really want to go through a game's core rulebook and change 25% (number pulled from butt) of the section headers, then try and coordinate the penciled in terms with my players. Maybe the anime fans could try to broaden their horizons a bit and use D&D to play, you know, classic D&D style fantasy.</p><p></p><p>Of course, I could just use a previous edition for my game. But just because I like the flavor of a game system doesn't mean I am not interested in updating and improving the rules.</p><p></p><p>Maybe what I should do is stop trying to categorize my likes and dislikes for people. I could just list off a bunch of names I dislike and a bunch of names I don't. There seem to be no lack of people smarter than me who could better identify the common threads and let me know how to quickly and easily sum up my likes and dislikes without getting my terms wrong.</p><p></p><p>To start with, I dislike the following names:</p><p>- Lightning Panther Strike</p><p>- Twin Thunder Stance</p><p>- Emerald Frost Technique</p><p>- Koryu</p><p>- Ryu</p><p>- Randori</p><p>- Spadroon</p><p>- Jogo du Pau</p><p></p><p>I like the following:</p><p>- Bonetti's Defense</p><p>- Capoferro</p><p>- Savate</p><p>- Jitte</p><p>- Coup de pied bas</p><p>- Pflug</p><p>- Agrippa</p><p></p><p>For the record, Capoferro: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridolfo_Capo_Ferro" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridolfo_Capo_Ferro</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercule, post: 3972950, member: 5100"] True. I probably should have abandoned the thread before getting irritable (which is more true than intolerant). There is a cultural difference between the East and the West -- someone stop me if I'm wrong there. Sometimes the differences can be as subtle as how a word or a name rolls off the tongue. I can't honestly say that I only like pseudo-Medieval European fantasy, because that isn't true. I can honestly say that those elements that I identify as Eastern (meaning that they evoke an Eastern feel to me, not that I scholarly research them and find them to have definitively originated in the East), I dislike. That does not make those elements bad. Nor does it make peopel who like/prefer those elements bad. It most certainly does not men that Eastern culture is bad. It means that I have a preferrence. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm quite certain that all of the things I dislike aren't even Eastern and there are some Eastern elements I'd welcome in a game. But, it gets the 80/20 of my meaning across. The discussion is pointless, though. If I say "I don't like anime," the stock response is either "You haven't seen good anime, then. There are a lot of types of anime," or, "Anime uses he same tropes as lots of Western movies/cartoons," or, "How could you not like anime? It has X, Y, and Z." Usually, that's followed up with a request to be specific about my dislkes. Those specifics are then rebutted by incredibly vague generalizations. For example, "I don't like flowery names," is countered with, "Western styles have names, too." Alternatively, I may be counciled to broaden my horizons and see what I think of some anime-inspired elements. Or, I could just change the names and/or flavor text. Yeah, right. I really want to go through a game's core rulebook and change 25% (number pulled from butt) of the section headers, then try and coordinate the penciled in terms with my players. Maybe the anime fans could try to broaden their horizons a bit and use D&D to play, you know, classic D&D style fantasy. Of course, I could just use a previous edition for my game. But just because I like the flavor of a game system doesn't mean I am not interested in updating and improving the rules. Maybe what I should do is stop trying to categorize my likes and dislikes for people. I could just list off a bunch of names I dislike and a bunch of names I don't. There seem to be no lack of people smarter than me who could better identify the common threads and let me know how to quickly and easily sum up my likes and dislikes without getting my terms wrong. To start with, I dislike the following names: - Lightning Panther Strike - Twin Thunder Stance - Emerald Frost Technique - Koryu - Ryu - Randori - Spadroon - Jogo du Pau I like the following: - Bonetti's Defense - Capoferro - Savate - Jitte - Coup de pied bas - Pflug - Agrippa For the record, Capoferro: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridolfo_Capo_Ferro[/url] [/QUOTE]
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