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<blockquote data-quote="Sadrik" data-source="post: 2388867" data-attributes="member: 14506"><p>I thought of this too. At first level your class skills get a bonus point in them effectivle changing the chart to what you have above. What do you think should characters be able to get supreme in a skill that started out as a cross-class skill? It would definately simplify the chart and like you said the record-keeping.</p><p></p><p>As far as the Int and human bonus thing. I am fully in the school of Int should be diminished. I have had long conversations with people about why that is but here are the highlights. Why does int make someone listen better or use jump better? Or charisma skills better etc. Now that is not to say someone who is smart can't learn more. Just that there are more than one type of intelligence. A really good dancer uses kinesthetics etc. Those are things that we dont normally think of as int in d&d. Sort of like the low IQ barbarian should still have lots of skills and knowledges but would not measure up to the very book smart wizard as far as IQ goes but the barbarian would have lots non-booky skills should the barbarian be penalized for not having book smarts? Maybe a little. So it is great this system lowers the importance of int. I like that. A wizard gets 10 + int that can be a lot of skills. a Barbarian gets 12 + int he will still get a lot of skills even if he has a 7 int. That works for me.</p><p></p><p>The human bonus is a little tougher. To balance this, first determine how much does a human need? they get a bonus feat. Is the feat too good? Is the bonus skill point still worth while? Is giving them 1 or 2 more on top of that too good? I would venture to say that the main reason people take human is for the feat and the bonus skill point would be just that a bonus. Albiet a nice bonus.</p><p></p><p>I like the rogue bonus where it is at right now because they get the bonuses later too. Right now they get a 6 point boost over most classes at first and then they can improve better than the other classes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sadrik, post: 2388867, member: 14506"] I thought of this too. At first level your class skills get a bonus point in them effectivle changing the chart to what you have above. What do you think should characters be able to get supreme in a skill that started out as a cross-class skill? It would definately simplify the chart and like you said the record-keeping. As far as the Int and human bonus thing. I am fully in the school of Int should be diminished. I have had long conversations with people about why that is but here are the highlights. Why does int make someone listen better or use jump better? Or charisma skills better etc. Now that is not to say someone who is smart can't learn more. Just that there are more than one type of intelligence. A really good dancer uses kinesthetics etc. Those are things that we dont normally think of as int in d&d. Sort of like the low IQ barbarian should still have lots of skills and knowledges but would not measure up to the very book smart wizard as far as IQ goes but the barbarian would have lots non-booky skills should the barbarian be penalized for not having book smarts? Maybe a little. So it is great this system lowers the importance of int. I like that. A wizard gets 10 + int that can be a lot of skills. a Barbarian gets 12 + int he will still get a lot of skills even if he has a 7 int. That works for me. The human bonus is a little tougher. To balance this, first determine how much does a human need? they get a bonus feat. Is the feat too good? Is the bonus skill point still worth while? Is giving them 1 or 2 more on top of that too good? I would venture to say that the main reason people take human is for the feat and the bonus skill point would be just that a bonus. Albiet a nice bonus. I like the rogue bonus where it is at right now because they get the bonuses later too. Right now they get a 6 point boost over most classes at first and then they can improve better than the other classes. [/QUOTE]
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