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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6862489" data-attributes="member: 996">Have you tried playing at 1st level?My pet conspiracy theory is that they made 1st level so randomly (almost hilariously, really) lethal, to fake you out, so you'd think 'wow 5e is deadly,' and not notice how easy it got after a few levels.Seriously, though, it's about the pattern I found in AD&amp;D, also.&nbsp; Low level, sure, it's deadly, but you quickly grow out of that.&nbsp; The monsters never get that badass.&nbsp; Once you get out the other end of the 'sweet spot' it's as 'too easy' as 5e could ever claim to be.&nbsp; Maybe 5e gets too easy too soon?&nbsp; You could try increasing the exp to level.&nbsp; Now, if you want character deaths just all the time at any level, 3.5 can totally do that for you... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />... really, any edition can, there's no limit to what a killer DM can throw at his party.At 1st level, definitely, though 4e never felt as 'easy mode' as 5e quickly gets.&nbsp; 4e tried to expand the 'sweet spot' and it did; 5e tried to re-capture classic feel, and, IMHO, it certainly did.&nbsp; You clearly disagree, and think the classic game was deadlier, longer.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6862489, member: 996"] Have you tried playing at 1st level? My pet conspiracy theory is that they made 1st level so randomly (almost hilariously, really) lethal, to fake you out, so you'd think 'wow 5e is deadly,' and not notice how easy it got after a few levels. Seriously, though, it's about the pattern I found in AD&D, also. Low level, sure, it's deadly, but you quickly grow out of that. The monsters never get that badass. Once you get out the other end of the 'sweet spot' it's as 'too easy' as 5e could ever claim to be. Maybe 5e gets too easy too soon? You could try increasing the exp to level. Now, if you want character deaths just all the time at any level, 3.5 can totally do that for you... ;) ... really, any edition can, there's no limit to what a killer DM can throw at his party. At 1st level, definitely, though 4e never felt as 'easy mode' as 5e quickly gets. 4e tried to expand the 'sweet spot' and it did; 5e tried to re-capture classic feel, and, IMHO, it certainly did. You clearly disagree, and think the classic game was deadlier, longer. [/QUOTE]

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