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<blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 7637023" data-attributes="member: 6802951"><p>I'm fine with not requiring Dex for attacks, but I'd like to see it used for AC calculations rather than being able to dump it if you're wearing heavy armour. </p><p>I'm unsure of the best way to do that, keep all armour meaningful, and not break bounded accuracy however.</p><p></p><p> Conceptually for me at least, there is a distinction between "not a heavy, slow weapon" and "the wielder's athleticism and power are irrelevant to this weapon's use". The classic two handed sword(longsword) for example does not require a high strength to use (represented by low minimum Str requirement if 5e used that mechanic). However a higher 5e Str always improves your capability with it - allowing faster strikes, more control, and greater force.</p><p></p><p> There are some thrusting techniques in western quarterstaff fighting, but they are most certainly not the majority. Precision is useful, but even for spears, which require the least amount of athletic capability, you can't do away with requiring the traits the represent Strength in 5e. Without sufficient force to exert, you can't make those small movements at the back with sufficient speed and control - unless you reduce the size and weight of the weapon with the concomitant loss of advantage in reach etc.</p><p>When you actually start taking into account your opponent's weapon, and that they may have armour or be larger/tougher than a human, the power than you can exert to control and maneuver your weapon becomes even more important.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cap'n Kobold, post: 7637023, member: 6802951"] I'm fine with not requiring Dex for attacks, but I'd like to see it used for AC calculations rather than being able to dump it if you're wearing heavy armour. I'm unsure of the best way to do that, keep all armour meaningful, and not break bounded accuracy however. Conceptually for me at least, there is a distinction between "not a heavy, slow weapon" and "the wielder's athleticism and power are irrelevant to this weapon's use". The classic two handed sword(longsword) for example does not require a high strength to use (represented by low minimum Str requirement if 5e used that mechanic). However a higher 5e Str always improves your capability with it - allowing faster strikes, more control, and greater force. There are some thrusting techniques in western quarterstaff fighting, but they are most certainly not the majority. Precision is useful, but even for spears, which require the least amount of athletic capability, you can't do away with requiring the traits the represent Strength in 5e. Without sufficient force to exert, you can't make those small movements at the back with sufficient speed and control - unless you reduce the size and weight of the weapon with the concomitant loss of advantage in reach etc. When you actually start taking into account your opponent's weapon, and that they may have armour or be larger/tougher than a human, the power than you can exert to control and maneuver your weapon becomes even more important. [/QUOTE]
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