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<blockquote data-quote="TheSword" data-source="post: 7422820" data-attributes="member: 6879661"><p>Hello all, this thread is intended to be a method of communication for anyone thoroughly scammed by Gary McBride in the Throne Of Night Kickstarter. I’m very wary of the comments section of Kickstarter in question being shut down and therefore being cut off from all other backers.</p><p></p><p>The Kickstarter was funded to the tune of $40,000 back in May 2013 by just over 300 backers. The last time we heard from the creator was October 2015. He’s ignored private emails, letters to his address and contacts from Kickstarter themselves. most frustratingly he’s backed over 300 other kickstarters in that period demonstrating that not only does he regularly log on to kickstart but that Kickstarter have benefited from his ongoing financial investment - effectively using our money. Some have said there is an argument that they have therefore used their platform to enable a fraud by GmB that they have then benefited from financially. By not blocking his account (as their terms and conditions say they are able to do) they have not done everything reasonable in their power to encourage Gary to communicate with us.</p><p></p><p>The complete silence for three years is clearly a breach of kickstarters code of practice. The lack of communication almost certainly indicates a fraud has been perpetuated and many backers intend to take legal action. Most frustratingly of all, we know from communications with the artists, the the artwork and maps for the entire seven book project has been completed. We have no way of getting access to it though. in short this thread is for people who have been royally doinked to keep in touch.</p><p></p><p>Presumably Gary McBride has supported hundreds of rpg kickstarters for his home games. On the slim chance that a participant in those games reads this thread, please can you attempt to talk some sense into Gary, before legal fees start escalating.</p><p></p><p>Any backers or industry professionals, we’d love to hear your thoughts?</p><p></p><p>Mods: I may have posted this in the wrong place but I say that it was about third party publishers and Kickstarter so it made sense. Please move if there is a better location.</p><p></p><p>Posters: In order to keep this thread from being locked or deleted please refrain from threats or abuse against Gary or other parties. Let’s keep I professional and be the better people.</p><p></p><p>So far backers that have posted are</p><p> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=85066" target="_blank">kevin_video</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6885908" target="_blank">Mirko Hess</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6879661" target="_blank">TheSword</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=8461" target="_blank">Alzrius</a> </u></strong></em><span style="color: #454545">[FONT=&quot]@Jaynay27 [/FONT]</span><span style="color: #454545">[FONT=&quot]@Jenner2057 [/FONT]</span><span style="color: #454545">[FONT=&quot]@Zaister[/FONT]</span>[FONT=&quot]</p><p>[/FONT]</p><p>Welcome all, particularly anyone new to Enworld, it’s a great site. I’m just sorry it’s in these circumstances.</p><p></p><p>[Edit updated for new backers]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheSword, post: 7422820, member: 6879661"] Hello all, this thread is intended to be a method of communication for anyone thoroughly scammed by Gary McBride in the Throne Of Night Kickstarter. I’m very wary of the comments section of Kickstarter in question being shut down and therefore being cut off from all other backers. The Kickstarter was funded to the tune of $40,000 back in May 2013 by just over 300 backers. The last time we heard from the creator was October 2015. He’s ignored private emails, letters to his address and contacts from Kickstarter themselves. most frustratingly he’s backed over 300 other kickstarters in that period demonstrating that not only does he regularly log on to kickstart but that Kickstarter have benefited from his ongoing financial investment - effectively using our money. Some have said there is an argument that they have therefore used their platform to enable a fraud by GmB that they have then benefited from financially. By not blocking his account (as their terms and conditions say they are able to do) they have not done everything reasonable in their power to encourage Gary to communicate with us. The complete silence for three years is clearly a breach of kickstarters code of practice. The lack of communication almost certainly indicates a fraud has been perpetuated and many backers intend to take legal action. Most frustratingly of all, we know from communications with the artists, the the artwork and maps for the entire seven book project has been completed. We have no way of getting access to it though. in short this thread is for people who have been royally doinked to keep in touch. Presumably Gary McBride has supported hundreds of rpg kickstarters for his home games. On the slim chance that a participant in those games reads this thread, please can you attempt to talk some sense into Gary, before legal fees start escalating. Any backers or industry professionals, we’d love to hear your thoughts? Mods: I may have posted this in the wrong place but I say that it was about third party publishers and Kickstarter so it made sense. Please move if there is a better location. Posters: In order to keep this thread from being locked or deleted please refrain from threats or abuse against Gary or other parties. Let’s keep I professional and be the better people. So far backers that have posted are @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=85066"]kevin_video[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6885908"]Mirko Hess[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6879661"]TheSword[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=8461"]Alzrius[/URL] [/U][/B][/I][COLOR=#454545][FONT="]@Jaynay27 [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#454545][FONT="]@Jenner2057 [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#454545][FONT="]@Zaister[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT="] [/FONT] Welcome all, particularly anyone new to Enworld, it’s a great site. I’m just sorry it’s in these circumstances. [Edit updated for new backers] [/QUOTE]
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