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<blockquote data-quote="Mirko Hess" data-source="post: 7436401" data-attributes="member: 6885908"><p>I backed this "project" with 150$ plus shipping (Europe) which brought me to 200$ and was dumb enough to throw another 150$ for the WotW books into it, so I financed about 350$ worth of kickstarter backings for McBride.</p><p></p><p>Happy ending? Uh-hm. Their ain´t no "happy ending" there man. That ship has sailed 2 years ago. Even IF something gets released (and come on, are you kidding me?) 50-75% of backers will still be hosed because 1. there´s no way in hell McBride will release a complete Adventure Path imo, best you can hope for is some half-baked scribbles and notes and tons of art. Then you can try to bake the <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> together yerself if´n ye got the talent and time for that and 2. many people aren´t even playing no Pathfinder anymore and those that still do will probably jump over to 2nd soon. Meaning even more work should something be released. </p><p></p><p>Also I really wish people would stop referencing Razor Coast. Yeah, Razor Coast WAS delayed by a lifetime and yeah, Nick Logue DID stop communicating at some time. BUT he did so because he had SERIOUS health problems at that time and the moment he could he came forth, came clean with his backers, refunded ALL their money AND gave Razor Coast over to the Frogs so it could be finished. Didn´t see Nick running around backing every <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> project he could find on kickstarter while he was gone and out. In the end Nick proved to be a man of honor and integrity and I doubt McBride can even spell those words.</p><p></p><p>But I have to say what saddens me is that Michael Clarke is drawn into this and seems to suffer some of the negative effects too. A shame. The guy did his utmost best to keep us up to date (as far as he could) and had the guts to communicate even in the times people were already plenty angry. Gotta give him credit for that! As Kevin_video I´m glad he at least got the money for the art stuff he did, as much as I would want my money back, I´d not want to cheat him out of the cash he got for a job well done.</p><p></p><p>That said, I don´t think at this stage there´s much to be done. Let´s be honest, kickstarter will not do a fricking thing. They won´t go after his account (or if they will, which I doubt, they certainly will not control or care whether he just opens up another one). McBride will not release anything anytime soon (and imo not ever) unless he is forced to do so by court. So, only thing to do is wait and see whether any US backer is pissed off enough to go after him in that arena while we non-US guys and gals watch helplessly from the sidelines......</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mirko Hess, post: 7436401, member: 6885908"] I backed this "project" with 150$ plus shipping (Europe) which brought me to 200$ and was dumb enough to throw another 150$ for the WotW books into it, so I financed about 350$ worth of kickstarter backings for McBride. Happy ending? Uh-hm. Their ain´t no "happy ending" there man. That ship has sailed 2 years ago. Even IF something gets released (and come on, are you kidding me?) 50-75% of backers will still be hosed because 1. there´s no way in hell McBride will release a complete Adventure Path imo, best you can hope for is some half-baked scribbles and notes and tons of art. Then you can try to bake the :):):):) together yerself if´n ye got the talent and time for that and 2. many people aren´t even playing no Pathfinder anymore and those that still do will probably jump over to 2nd soon. Meaning even more work should something be released. Also I really wish people would stop referencing Razor Coast. Yeah, Razor Coast WAS delayed by a lifetime and yeah, Nick Logue DID stop communicating at some time. BUT he did so because he had SERIOUS health problems at that time and the moment he could he came forth, came clean with his backers, refunded ALL their money AND gave Razor Coast over to the Frogs so it could be finished. Didn´t see Nick running around backing every :):):):):):) project he could find on kickstarter while he was gone and out. In the end Nick proved to be a man of honor and integrity and I doubt McBride can even spell those words. But I have to say what saddens me is that Michael Clarke is drawn into this and seems to suffer some of the negative effects too. A shame. The guy did his utmost best to keep us up to date (as far as he could) and had the guts to communicate even in the times people were already plenty angry. Gotta give him credit for that! As Kevin_video I´m glad he at least got the money for the art stuff he did, as much as I would want my money back, I´d not want to cheat him out of the cash he got for a job well done. That said, I don´t think at this stage there´s much to be done. Let´s be honest, kickstarter will not do a fricking thing. They won´t go after his account (or if they will, which I doubt, they certainly will not control or care whether he just opens up another one). McBride will not release anything anytime soon (and imo not ever) unless he is forced to do so by court. So, only thing to do is wait and see whether any US backer is pissed off enough to go after him in that arena while we non-US guys and gals watch helplessly from the sidelines...... [/QUOTE]
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