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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CleverNickName" data-source="post: 4199979" data-attributes="member: 50987">The thing is, I like firearms in my games.  I like dwarven footsoldiers to carry hand-cannons onto the battlefield instead of battle-axes.  I like my pirates to use pistol and cutlass instead of hand crossbows and rapiers.  That sort of thing.  So when/if I start up a 4E campaign, I would like these noble, historic, and badass weapons to be there for me and my players.I banged these out in a fit of inspiration last night, and would like some constructive criticism.  Since we know so little about weapons at the moment, there are a lot of assumptions:<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/1.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":1:" title="One    :1:" data-shortname=":1:" />  I am assuming that firearms are "simple" weapons.  After all, the fact that common peasants could be taught to use them in just a few days is the main reason why they replaced the longbow, which took months or years to master.  Historically-speaking, anyway.  But I'm not trying to teach a history lesson here; if it needs changing, I can change it.<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/2.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":2:" title="Two    :2:" data-shortname=":2:" />  I invented the category for these weapons ("projectile"), even though I have no indication that such a category exists.  I couldn't exactly call them "picks" or "light blades," and I had to call them something, so...well, this was the best I could do.<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/3.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":3:" title="Three    :3:" data-shortname=":3:" />  The "three standard actions" reload time and "provokes attacks of opportunity" are holdovers from 3E, and I'm not sure how mechanically sound they will be in 4E.  Feedback would be awesome...this is the part that I am most shaky on.  If Wikipedia is to be believed, a highly-trained soldier still needs more than one full minute to reload a muzzle-loading weapon...I am trying to replicate that here to some extent, without getting too deep into the "simulationist" quagmire.This is what I've got so far.[SBLOCK=Firearms For 4E]Bayonet(Military Melee Weapon)Proficency: 2Damage:[/B] 1d8Range: --Cost: 5 gpWeight: 2 lb.Category: Spear?Properties: two-handed, high critBayonets may be fastened onto muskets only.  They require some degree of training to use beyond that of a simple spear; thus they are considered Military weapons.Blunderbuss(Simple Ranged Weapon)Proficency: 2Damage: 1d10Range: 10/20Cost: 100 gpWeight: 10 lb.Category: Projectile?Properties: two-handed, load 2 standard actionsThis is a large musket with a flared, trumpet-like end and a flintlock or wheel-lock firing mechanism.  The predecessor of the modern shotgun, it is designed to fire powder and pellets.  The flared end makes it easier to reload than muskets: reloading a blunderbuss requires two standard actions.  Reloading a blunderbuss draws attacks of opportunity.Musket, Hv.(Simple Ranged Weapon)Proficency: 2Damage: 1d12Range: 15/30Cost: 100 gpWeight: 12 lb.Category: Projectile?Properties: two-handed, load 3 standard actionsThis is a historical flintlock or wheel-lock musket with a long barrel, common in Europe during the 15th century.  It fires lead or silver bullets, and can be fitted with a bayonet.  Reloading any musket requires three standard actions.  Reloading a musket draws attacks of opportunity.Musket, Lt.(Simple Ranged Weapon)Proficency: 2Damage: 1d8Range: 12/24Cost: 100 gpWeight: 6 lb.Category: Projectile?Properties: load 3 standard actionsThis is a historical flintlock or wheel-lock musket, common from the Middle Ages through the Renaissance.  Like its larger version, it fires lead or silver bullets and can be fitted with a bayonet, but is small enough to be held in one hand.   Reloading any musket requires three standard actions, and draws attacks of opportunity.AmmunitionPowder and shot (for musket)Quantitiy: 10 roundsCost: 3 gpWeight: 1 lb.Powder and pellets (for blunderbuss)Quantity: 10 roundsCost: 2 gpWeight: 1 lb.Silver bulletsQuantity: 10 roundCost: 10 gpWeight: 1 lb.[/SBLOCK]EDIT: I've incorporated a lot of your comments (thanks again, by the way...this is awesome stuff), and rewrote my first set of stats. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/1.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":1:" title="One    :1:" data-shortname=":1:" />  They are still "simple" weapons. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/2.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":2:" title="Two    :2:" data-shortname=":2:" />  Instead of making them projectiles, they are bludgeoning or piercing weapons with a per-encounter ability.  Cleaner and easier to run in-game, and solves the reload time issue.Check out the latest rendition:[SBLOCK=Firearms for 4E: Reloaded](Get it?  Reloaded!  Har har...heh...hm.)  ::crickets::Blunderbuss(Simple Melee Weapon)Proficency: 1Cost: 100 gpWeight: 10 lb.Category: ?ClubProperties: two-handedThis is a large musket with a flared, trumpet-like muzzle and a flintlock or wheel-lock firing mechanism.  The predecessor of the modern shotgun, it is designed to fire many tiny pellets rather than a single bullet.  The flared end makes it easier to reload than a musket, but prevents it from being fitted with a bayonet. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/bm.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":bmelee:" title="Basic Melee    :bmelee:" data-shortname=":bmelee:" /> Slam (standard; at-will)Melee vs. AC; 2d4 bludgeoning <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/r.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":ranged:" title="Ranged    :ranged:" data-shortname=":ranged:" /> Discharge (standard; encounter)Range 10; range vs. AC; target up to 2 adjacent foes; 2d6 + Dex piercing damage.Musket, Heavy(Simple Melee Weapon)Proficency: 3Cost: 100 gpWeight: 12 lb.Category: ?Spear/ClubProperties: two-handedThese stats are used for a wide variety of flintlock or wheel-lock muskets with a long barrel, wooden stock, and brass fittings.  It fires lead or silver bullets, and comes fitted with a long, spiked bayonet near the muzzle. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/bm.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":bmelee:" title="Basic Melee    :bmelee:" data-shortname=":bmelee:" /> Slam (standard; at-will)Melee vs. AC; 1d8 piercing (with bayonet) or 2d4 bludgeoning <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/r.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":ranged:" title="Ranged    :ranged:" data-shortname=":ranged:" /> Discharge (standard; encounter)Range 10; range vs. AC; 2d8 + Dex piercing damage and the target is pushed back 1 square.Musket, Light(Simple Melee Weapon)Proficency: 3Cost: 100 gpWeight: 6 lb.Category: ?Light blade/ClubProperties: High critThese stats are for any flintlock or wheel-lock musket with a short barrel and curved wooden grip, that is designed to be held and fired with one hand.  Like its larger version, it fires lead or silver bullets and is fitted with a dagger-sized blade near the muzzle. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/bm.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":bmelee:" title="Basic Melee    :bmelee:" data-shortname=":bmelee:" /> Slam (standard; at-will)Melee vs. AC; 1d4 piercing (with bayonet) or 1d4 bludgeoning <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/r.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":ranged:" title="Ranged    :ranged:" data-shortname=":ranged:" /> Discharge (standard; encounter)Range 10; range vs. AC; 2d6 + Dex piercing damage and the target is pushed back 1 square.AmmunitionPowder and shot (for muskets)10 rounds cost 3 gp and weigh 1 lb.Powder and pellets (for blunderbuss)10 rounds cost 2 gp and weigh 1 lb.Silver bullets (for muskets)10 rounds cost 10 gp and weigh 1 lb.[/SBLOCK]</blockquote>

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