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<blockquote data-quote="Arthedain" data-source="post: 2002031" data-attributes="member: 17748"><p>This (silly?) problem came up during today's session: </p><p></p><p>Say we have a wizard W who wants to use a fireball spell, and a group of creatures C stand between him and his intended target T(or, more precisely, the intended target square/intersection). Everyone is medium-sized, and moving to the left or right of the group is not an option <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. Think "wizard with lots of minions between himself and the pesky heroes".</p><p></p><p> W</p><p></p><p> CCCC</p><p> CCCC</p><p></p><p> T</p><p></p><p>According to the fireball spell : </p><p></p><p></p><p>The point of contention is the text in bold. After reading the description of Line of Effect (page 176, 3.5 PHB), and the FAQ (MainFAQ v06272003, page 52) I am the opinion that "normal" creatures do not block Line of Effect, and thus the glowing, pea-sized bead doesn't hit them and cause an early detonation. As it says in the FAQ (perhaps a bit out of context, but I'll take my chances) : "A creature generally doesn't block line of effect because it almost always leaves the requisite 1 square foot of open space per 5-foot-square area it happens to occupy."</p><p></p><p>Any opinions, or preferably, hard quotes from designers? I just read through Skip Williams' Rules on the Game, but don't feel any wiser (might have something to do with the fact that it's 6 AM in the morning, and my brain needs some sleep...)</p><p></p><p>Thanks in advance!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arthedain, post: 2002031, member: 17748"] This (silly?) problem came up during today's session: Say we have a wizard W who wants to use a fireball spell, and a group of creatures C stand between him and his intended target T(or, more precisely, the intended target square/intersection). Everyone is medium-sized, and moving to the left or right of the group is not an option :). Think "wizard with lots of minions between himself and the pesky heroes". W CCCC CCCC T According to the fireball spell : The point of contention is the text in bold. After reading the description of Line of Effect (page 176, 3.5 PHB), and the FAQ (MainFAQ v06272003, page 52) I am the opinion that "normal" creatures do not block Line of Effect, and thus the glowing, pea-sized bead doesn't hit them and cause an early detonation. As it says in the FAQ (perhaps a bit out of context, but I'll take my chances) : "A creature generally doesn't block line of effect because it almost always leaves the requisite 1 square foot of open space per 5-foot-square area it happens to occupy." Any opinions, or preferably, hard quotes from designers? I just read through Skip Williams' Rules on the Game, but don't feel any wiser (might have something to do with the fact that it's 6 AM in the morning, and my brain needs some sleep...) Thanks in advance! [/QUOTE]
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