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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 9638447" data-attributes="member: 6716779">Generally&nbsp; you're not getting hit by fireball at level 4. I have seen it via flameskull.&nbsp;I use WotC adventures as a point of reference as every DMs slightly different in how they do encounters. It's how we end up with nuh uh we play this way you're wrong type discussions.&nbsp;I did check mine in 5.5 they're mostly medium and high RAW. &nbsp;I remember one encounter from CoS that had 20 odd critters but they cane at you in waves. &nbsp;WotC is also saying don't do that.&nbsp; I used 10 ogres as an example same adventure had horde of berzerkers CR 2 each irrc. CRs 2s are your fodder at higher level RAW. &nbsp;You could go to CR1 I suppose bit in those scenarios you're competing with other spells like spirit guardians and you don't need fireball anyway. The rest if the party should be able to clear out mist of it anyway and round 2 maybe 3 are functionally mop up. &nbsp;5.5 buffed healing so even if you take sone damage from the fodder it's mostly irrelevant. &nbsp;So yeah very narrow window of opportunity level 5/6 assuming you come across those type of encounters and everything else checks out (initiative, not fireballing allies,&nbsp; etc.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 9638447, member: 6716779"] Generally you're not getting hit by fireball at level 4. I have seen it via flameskull. I use WotC adventures as a point of reference as every DMs slightly different in how they do encounters. It's how we end up with nuh uh we play this way you're wrong type discussions. I did check mine in 5.5 they're mostly medium and high RAW. I remember one encounter from CoS that had 20 odd critters but they cane at you in waves. WotC is also saying don't do that. I used 10 ogres as an example same adventure had horde of berzerkers CR 2 each irrc. CRs 2s are your fodder at higher level RAW. You could go to CR1 I suppose bit in those scenarios you're competing with other spells like spirit guardians and you don't need fireball anyway. The rest if the party should be able to clear out mist of it anyway and round 2 maybe 3 are functionally mop up. 5.5 buffed healing so even if you take sone damage from the fodder it's mostly irrelevant. So yeah very narrow window of opportunity level 5/6 assuming you come across those type of encounters and everything else checks out (initiative, not fireballing allies, etc. [/QUOTE]

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