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<blockquote data-quote="azhrei_fje" data-source="post: 4598895" data-attributes="member: 12966"><p>So what's an archery bullseye? About 4" round?</p><p></p><p>And the analogy of throwing a ball 30' isn't a very good one. In some cultures, throwing a rock 30' and hitting a 4" round target is child's play. I know <strong>I</strong> wouldn't have a chance in h*** of hitting it, though! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>A better analogy (for modern day) might be lining up a laser pointer without turning it on. Can you aim a laser pointer at a 3"-wide slot at a distance of 100'+ (since <em>fireball</em> has Medium range) and get the light through the arrow slit when you turn on the laser pointer? This is about as close as I can get to the act of pointing with a finger to a distant target.</p><p></p><p>Maybe mounting the laser pointer onto a stick would be even better?</p><p></p><p>In any case, the rules state that line of effect requires "1 square foot" of opening in a 5' square. It doesn't say what the shape of that 144 square inches has to be, though. However, I think it's entirely reasonable to set a lower limit. For example, could the "1 square foot" actually be a shape like a letter "S" where each of the 144 square inches make up one section of the letter? I think we can all agree that the "1 square foot" is supposed to be a rectangular shape of contiguous 1 square inch gaps.</p><p></p><p>So what's the lower boundary? And whatever that boundary is (assuming there is one), wouldn't you build your arrow slits to be just below that boundary condition? I know I would. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>And if we assume that the "contiguous" aspect is important (which seems reasonable to me), then a single 5' square could have two smaller arrow slits in it and still avoid the line of effect issue. Which means there also needs to be a upper limit as well. Otherwise, a 5' section of wall would have a bunch of small holes in it, each one being less than 1 square foot.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps something like, "1 square foot of contiguous space as long as neither height nor width is less than 4 inches, or any 5' square with at least 4 square feet of space in any configuration."</p><p></p><p>And then just allow line of effect to be there or not. And keep in mind that the people building these things will know these limits (through experimentation if nothing else).</p><p></p><p>Comments?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="azhrei_fje, post: 4598895, member: 12966"] So what's an archery bullseye? About 4" round? And the analogy of throwing a ball 30' isn't a very good one. In some cultures, throwing a rock 30' and hitting a 4" round target is child's play. I know [b]I[/b] wouldn't have a chance in h*** of hitting it, though! ;) A better analogy (for modern day) might be lining up a laser pointer without turning it on. Can you aim a laser pointer at a 3"-wide slot at a distance of 100'+ (since [i]fireball[/i] has Medium range) and get the light through the arrow slit when you turn on the laser pointer? This is about as close as I can get to the act of pointing with a finger to a distant target. Maybe mounting the laser pointer onto a stick would be even better? In any case, the rules state that line of effect requires "1 square foot" of opening in a 5' square. It doesn't say what the shape of that 144 square inches has to be, though. However, I think it's entirely reasonable to set a lower limit. For example, could the "1 square foot" actually be a shape like a letter "S" where each of the 144 square inches make up one section of the letter? I think we can all agree that the "1 square foot" is supposed to be a rectangular shape of contiguous 1 square inch gaps. So what's the lower boundary? And whatever that boundary is (assuming there is one), wouldn't you build your arrow slits to be just below that boundary condition? I know I would. :) And if we assume that the "contiguous" aspect is important (which seems reasonable to me), then a single 5' square could have two smaller arrow slits in it and still avoid the line of effect issue. Which means there also needs to be a upper limit as well. Otherwise, a 5' section of wall would have a bunch of small holes in it, each one being less than 1 square foot. Perhaps something like, "1 square foot of contiguous space as long as neither height nor width is less than 4 inches, or any 5' square with at least 4 square feet of space in any configuration." And then just allow line of effect to be there or not. And keep in mind that the people building these things will know these limits (through experimentation if nothing else). Comments? [/QUOTE]
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