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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 7954775" data-attributes="member: 29398"><p>In that they only take the briefest of instants to happen, yes.</p><p></p><p>But the resulting effect of both spells is permanent - the flesh remains stone, the cure recipient remains healthier, etc.</p><p></p><p>But here the resulting effect of the spell - the lightning - is not permanent at all (one hopes!). And none of these are dispellable.</p><p></p><p>Agreed.</p><p></p><p>However there needs to be a differentiation between spells like Flesh to Stone where the spell effect remains and Lightning Bolt where the spell effect does not remain, otherwise one could argue that if they are indeed the same then either Flesh to Stone only turns the target to stone for a brief instant or that Lightning Bolt's lightning never ceases in its target area.</p><p></p><p>And then there's a third state, where the spell effect occurs immediately yet leaves an ongoing magic effect behind that can later be dispelled e.g. Continual Light or Hallucinatory Forest.</p><p></p><p>Please tell me you can see the differences between these three states:</p><p></p><p>Instant resolution, near-zero duration effect, no remaining magic (Lightning Bolt)</p><p>Instant resolution, permanent effect, magic remains (Continual Light)</p><p>Instant resolution, permanent effect, no magic remains (Cure xxxx Wounds)</p><p></p><p>Nor am I saying it is, or that any of that is true..</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 7954775, member: 29398"] In that they only take the briefest of instants to happen, yes. But the resulting effect of both spells is permanent - the flesh remains stone, the cure recipient remains healthier, etc. But here the resulting effect of the spell - the lightning - is not permanent at all (one hopes!). And none of these are dispellable. Agreed. However there needs to be a differentiation between spells like Flesh to Stone where the spell effect remains and Lightning Bolt where the spell effect does not remain, otherwise one could argue that if they are indeed the same then either Flesh to Stone only turns the target to stone for a brief instant or that Lightning Bolt's lightning never ceases in its target area. And then there's a third state, where the spell effect occurs immediately yet leaves an ongoing magic effect behind that can later be dispelled e.g. Continual Light or Hallucinatory Forest. Please tell me you can see the differences between these three states: Instant resolution, near-zero duration effect, no remaining magic (Lightning Bolt) Instant resolution, permanent effect, magic remains (Continual Light) Instant resolution, permanent effect, no magic remains (Cure xxxx Wounds) Nor am I saying it is, or that any of that is true.. [/QUOTE]
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