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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 9739493" data-attributes="member: 6795602">On control vs damageIMO direct damage aoe spells are very underrated by modern d&d char op community.But so much depends on how the particular encounters are structured.  So it doesn’t surprise me that at some tables direct damage aoe fares worse than control spells. What I believe happens is mostly a combination of a few things1) players feel control spells are more impactful because their impact can be immediately seen.2) players remember the times the control spells hit every important enemy and forget the times it completely missed.3) DMs tend to rule favorably for control spells. Enemies not shaking others out of hypnotic pattern, favorable rulings on Fear end conditions. Then there’s also concentrationOn fireball vs chromatic orb1) Chromatic orb is only actually good on sorcerers.2) if fireball is a C then chromatic orb is at best a C+, but that’s only for a sorcerer dumping metamagic and other sorcerer abilities into it. For everyone else it’s probably closer to a D.</blockquote>