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<blockquote data-quote="gnfnrf" data-source="post: 3523355" data-attributes="member: 2373"><p>In my quest to avoid being productive, I have run a bunch more data.</p><p></p><p>I now have 49 encounters from EttDP, though just before the finale. For various reasons I won't discuss to avoid spoilers, I don't think I can get good data from the finale itself.</p><p></p><p>I also tweaked where the level jumps are; instead of doing it by eye, I actually calculated experience for a four character party by encounter.</p><p></p><p>With no metamagic, the comparison stands at </p><p>Fireball/Lightning Bolt - Preferred in 22 encounters</p><p>Energy Orb - Preferred in 20 encounters</p><p>Mixed - 3 encounters</p><p>Even - 4 encounters</p><p></p><p>Empowering each spell at the first available lever (as a wizard)</p><p>Fireball/Lightning Bolt - Preferred in 27 encounters</p><p>Energy Orb - Preferred in 15 encounters</p><p>Mixed - 4 encounters</p><p>Even - 3 encounters</p><p></p><p>James, I'm afraid that your idea makes assumptions that don't fit well with the expected damage model I'm using. I think you'd find that even with the orbs, it's very difficult to kill a foe outright, and little damage will be wasted on the first casting of the fight. But, I don't have hard numbers to back that up.</p><p></p><p>I'm interested in using what I've prepared to test other things. Next, I might compare magic missile to the lesser orbs and see what comes up.</p><p></p><p>--</p><p>gnfnrf</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gnfnrf, post: 3523355, member: 2373"] In my quest to avoid being productive, I have run a bunch more data. I now have 49 encounters from EttDP, though just before the finale. For various reasons I won't discuss to avoid spoilers, I don't think I can get good data from the finale itself. I also tweaked where the level jumps are; instead of doing it by eye, I actually calculated experience for a four character party by encounter. With no metamagic, the comparison stands at Fireball/Lightning Bolt - Preferred in 22 encounters Energy Orb - Preferred in 20 encounters Mixed - 3 encounters Even - 4 encounters Empowering each spell at the first available lever (as a wizard) Fireball/Lightning Bolt - Preferred in 27 encounters Energy Orb - Preferred in 15 encounters Mixed - 4 encounters Even - 3 encounters James, I'm afraid that your idea makes assumptions that don't fit well with the expected damage model I'm using. I think you'd find that even with the orbs, it's very difficult to kill a foe outright, and little damage will be wasted on the first casting of the fight. But, I don't have hard numbers to back that up. I'm interested in using what I've prepared to test other things. Next, I might compare magic missile to the lesser orbs and see what comes up. -- gnfnrf [/QUOTE]
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