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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 1922483" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>If you don't make it a practice to assume, why are you doing so in this case?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>First off, you do not know what you are talking about here. I did state a lot of facts and reasoning. You will find them on page 2 of this thread. Please go read them in detail before you (again) make assumptions not based in fact.</p><p></p><p>My answer is based on the rules as stated, not based on assumptions about the two spells that are never listed in the rules.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Fine, but they are still assumptions and still not supported by the rules as written.</p><p></p><p>You want those in your game, fine.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The bead "streaks from the pointing digit" of the caster. It might be that the bat guano is accumulated on the end of his finger and then fired, but the spell does not tell us that explicitly.</p><p></p><p>Strike one.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It is NOT hampered by physical objects. It detonates prematurely when it comes in contact with physical objects.</p><p></p><p>That is a property of the spell and says NOTHING about the physical properties of the bead.</p><p></p><p>Since we are NOT told the physical properties of the bead, we cannot assume that it is a "normal missile". To do so is the height of hubris when you are strictly discussing rules.</p><p></p><p>Strike two.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The only conjecture here is that anyone who thinks that Wind Wall affects the bead of a Fireball is assigning properties to that bead which we have not been given.</p><p></p><p>In a rules forum, this is assumption and speculation and not supported by the rules.</p><p></p><p>Strike three.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The only way a Wind Wall can deflect a Fireball is if the bead is both a physical object AND it is a "normal missile".</p><p></p><p>The only way a Wind Wall can prematurely detonate a Fireball is if the Wind Wall is a "material body" that interupts line of effect for spells.</p><p></p><p>Since none of these are stated in the spell description of Fireball or Wind Wall (or anywhere else in the rules), you cannot ASSUME that this is what happens in a rules forum.</p><p></p><p>It is wishful thinking and not directly supported by the rules.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 1922483, member: 2011"] If you don't make it a practice to assume, why are you doing so in this case? First off, you do not know what you are talking about here. I did state a lot of facts and reasoning. You will find them on page 2 of this thread. Please go read them in detail before you (again) make assumptions not based in fact. My answer is based on the rules as stated, not based on assumptions about the two spells that are never listed in the rules. Fine, but they are still assumptions and still not supported by the rules as written. You want those in your game, fine. The bead "streaks from the pointing digit" of the caster. It might be that the bat guano is accumulated on the end of his finger and then fired, but the spell does not tell us that explicitly. Strike one. It is NOT hampered by physical objects. It detonates prematurely when it comes in contact with physical objects. That is a property of the spell and says NOTHING about the physical properties of the bead. Since we are NOT told the physical properties of the bead, we cannot assume that it is a "normal missile". To do so is the height of hubris when you are strictly discussing rules. Strike two. The only conjecture here is that anyone who thinks that Wind Wall affects the bead of a Fireball is assigning properties to that bead which we have not been given. In a rules forum, this is assumption and speculation and not supported by the rules. Strike three. The only way a Wind Wall can deflect a Fireball is if the bead is both a physical object AND it is a "normal missile". The only way a Wind Wall can prematurely detonate a Fireball is if the Wind Wall is a "material body" that interupts line of effect for spells. Since none of these are stated in the spell description of Fireball or Wind Wall (or anywhere else in the rules), you cannot ASSUME that this is what happens in a rules forum. It is wishful thinking and not directly supported by the rules. [/QUOTE]
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