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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 1927104" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>To be more precise, I would state that the Wind Wall might be considered a material body in this case (it is still not a solid barrier).</p><p></p><p>However, if you rule this way (i.e. the Wind Wall is a material body), the Fireball would have to detonate as soon as it hits the Wind Wall. It still would not be deflected.</p><p></p><p>Also, if you rule this way, than a caster readying a Gust of Wind could force a Fireball to detonate right away as it leaves the finger of the caster.</p><p></p><p>However, both of these are a real stretch since Fireball does not state that it is affected by Wind and none of the other rules state that either.</p><p></p><p>PS. And actually, air can be felt. If I remove all of the air from around you, you would feel the lack of that air around you real fast. Air has pressure. Air has temperature. It can be felt without it moving.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As we discussed before, this is total speculation on your part.</p><p></p><p>In fact, the bead is not even "firey". It is glowing and pea sized, but nothing indicates that it is on fire.</p><p></p><p>Just because it triggers against a solid object does not mean that it too is a solid object.</p><p></p><p>Light falling on a solar panel triggers the creation of electricity, but just because the solar panel is solid does not make the light striking it solid.</p><p></p><p>It's magic. We do not know that the bead is solid. The bead could be just magical light. We don't know one way or the other.</p><p></p><p>What we do know is that the bead detonates when it contacts something solid.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It is not that you cannot determine those parameters. It is that you cannot assume what those parameters are and still state that you are following the rules.</p><p></p><p>If you consider the bead to be a "normal missile" but it does not act like a normal missile, I would question why you consider it to be that way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 1927104, member: 2011"] To be more precise, I would state that the Wind Wall might be considered a material body in this case (it is still not a solid barrier). However, if you rule this way (i.e. the Wind Wall is a material body), the Fireball would have to detonate as soon as it hits the Wind Wall. It still would not be deflected. Also, if you rule this way, than a caster readying a Gust of Wind could force a Fireball to detonate right away as it leaves the finger of the caster. However, both of these are a real stretch since Fireball does not state that it is affected by Wind and none of the other rules state that either. PS. And actually, air can be felt. If I remove all of the air from around you, you would feel the lack of that air around you real fast. Air has pressure. Air has temperature. It can be felt without it moving. As we discussed before, this is total speculation on your part. In fact, the bead is not even "firey". It is glowing and pea sized, but nothing indicates that it is on fire. Just because it triggers against a solid object does not mean that it too is a solid object. Light falling on a solar panel triggers the creation of electricity, but just because the solar panel is solid does not make the light striking it solid. It's magic. We do not know that the bead is solid. The bead could be just magical light. We don't know one way or the other. What we do know is that the bead detonates when it contacts something solid. It is not that you cannot determine those parameters. It is that you cannot assume what those parameters are and still state that you are following the rules. If you consider the bead to be a "normal missile" but it does not act like a normal missile, I would question why you consider it to be that way. [/QUOTE]
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