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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 2147405" data-attributes="member: 1656">The way they've worded it in the 3.5 PHB leaves room for argument.Energy Attacks: Acid and sonic attacks deal damage to most objects just as they do to creatures; roll damage and apply it normally after a successful hit. Electricity and fire attacks deal half damage to most objects; divide the damage dealt by 2 before applying the hardness. Cold attacks deal one-quarter damage to most objects; divide the damage dealt by 4 before applying the hardness.Some read "roll damage and apply it normally" to mean "normally for damage to an object" - as in, subtract hardness from damage, and subtract the remaining damage from hit points.Some point to the absence of a mention of hardness in the sentence (where it appears in the sentences concerning electricity, fire, and cold) as evidence that hardness doesn't apply; others note that 'before applying the hardness' has no place in the sentence either way, since no mathematical operation is performed before hardness is applied, and thus it's not important to specify when to apply it - you do it just like you would for any other attack.And then there's the "just as they do to creatures" argument, where it's pointed out that a sonic or acid attack against a creature does not require you to apply hardness, and therefore dealing damage "just as they do to creatures" means hardness doesn't apply.... you can see how different people writing FAQ answers might read it differently <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />-Hyp.</blockquote>

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