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<blockquote data-quote="Wrath of the Swarm" data-source="post: 1499197" data-attributes="member: 16402"><p>He's also killed defenseless but potentially dangerous people, which is generally not a trait associated with D&D Good. (Would a Good person have kicked that man into the engine intake? Probably not, although an ethical person might have under the circumstances.)</p><p></p><p> Hmmm... Neutral with Lawful and Good tendencies, perhaps? She also has ethical issues, but she doesn't quite seem Good in the D&D sense. She's also only mildy Lawful, I think, but you make a good point.</p><p></p><p> Maybe with mild chaotic tendencies? He does seem rather creatively disorganized and adaptive - which fits the skills needed for a pilot.</p><p></p><p> That's why I thought she was more Neutral Good than anything else. Helping people is what's most important for her. She is quite disciplined, true. Definite Lawful tendencies.</p><p></p><p> I can see this. Emphasis on the Good more than Lawful, I think. He is willing to <em>threaten</em> to violate his principles, particularly when he claimed he would let Kaylee die if the ship didn't continue, but I think that's a highly unusual set of circumstances.</p><p></p><p> Agreed.</p><p></p><p> I see Jayne as having always lived with backstabbing, evil people. He's learned how to survive among them, but now that he's among people who won't betray him or their ethics for profit he's beginning to change. Clearly he's very self-interested, but he won't betray his personal loyalty to Mal for mere money. Possibly if his life was at stake...</p><p></p><p>No one on Serenity really fits the label of Evil well. The Alliance would seem to be somewhat Lawful Evil to Lawful Neutral (Stupid Neutral), and the Reavers are Chaotic Evil.</p><p></p><p> Eh. I don't like that way of looking at Law or Chaos at all. Her insanity seems to be a forced form of Chaos to me...</p><p></p><p> Agreed. He certainly has secrets, but I don't think they're as dark as some have suggested. Good people have nasty thoughts, after all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wrath of the Swarm, post: 1499197, member: 16402"] He's also killed defenseless but potentially dangerous people, which is generally not a trait associated with D&D Good. (Would a Good person have kicked that man into the engine intake? Probably not, although an ethical person might have under the circumstances.) Hmmm... Neutral with Lawful and Good tendencies, perhaps? She also has ethical issues, but she doesn't quite seem Good in the D&D sense. She's also only mildy Lawful, I think, but you make a good point. Maybe with mild chaotic tendencies? He does seem rather creatively disorganized and adaptive - which fits the skills needed for a pilot. That's why I thought she was more Neutral Good than anything else. Helping people is what's most important for her. She is quite disciplined, true. Definite Lawful tendencies. I can see this. Emphasis on the Good more than Lawful, I think. He is willing to [i]threaten[/i] to violate his principles, particularly when he claimed he would let Kaylee die if the ship didn't continue, but I think that's a highly unusual set of circumstances. Agreed. I see Jayne as having always lived with backstabbing, evil people. He's learned how to survive among them, but now that he's among people who won't betray him or their ethics for profit he's beginning to change. Clearly he's very self-interested, but he won't betray his personal loyalty to Mal for mere money. Possibly if his life was at stake... No one on Serenity really fits the label of Evil well. The Alliance would seem to be somewhat Lawful Evil to Lawful Neutral (Stupid Neutral), and the Reavers are Chaotic Evil. Eh. I don't like that way of looking at Law or Chaos at all. Her insanity seems to be a forced form of Chaos to me... Agreed. He certainly has secrets, but I don't think they're as dark as some have suggested. Good people have nasty thoughts, after all. [/QUOTE]
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