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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jasamcarl" data-source="post: 1965173" data-attributes="member: 1251">So all you wanted was a couple of vague, token points to take my opinion out of the realm of 'ceaseless negativity'? Now if that wouldn't be pointless. Besides which you ignored by justification for the original post.You think you can live up to the standard you set here? Good, then I expect you to call out any one sentence statement on the boards that go along the lines of "I didn't like it." Whether that apply to game supplements and whether or not you agree with the final assesment. Because quiete frankly you are less upset with my brief statement of dislike that the fact that i disliked Star Trek. You are frankly being dishonest. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>A mood piece, where every example sets essentially the same mood?  Why make a series instead of a movie, then?  While I liked the X-Files a lot, the monotony tended to wear a bit.[/QUOTE]Why do they make more than one horror movie? More than one tragicomedy? Chamber drama? Because most people don't watch similar movies back to back and thus can appreciate having the option of evoking that mood at their convenience without all the details being exactly the same and robbing them of that mood. That was just silly.[/QUOTE]Actually, I could, especially in the cases of Brent Spiner and Patrick Stewart.[/QUOTE] Patrick Stewart was actually one of my two exceptions along with Colm Meaney, an underrated Irish character acter who always makes me crack a smile. Unfortunatly, they don't get all the airtime and even they are forced to mouth some truly crapulant dialogue.[/QUOTE]Believeable?  From a morality play?  Go back and take a look at some of the archetypal original Greek morality plays - they are where we get the term deus ex machina.  Believeability isn't a part of the genre.  Neither is subtlety, really.  Morality plays generally wind up as moral sledgehammers.  If they're too subtle, the audience may not twig to the point the play is trying to make.  Doubly so when you've only got 40 minutes of screen time to make your case.Relevance is, of course, subjective.  What seems irrelevant to you may be the center of my existance.  The most recent example - Enterprise's vulcan story arc - was pretty darned relevant to some real-world politics.See the point on subtlety, above.  Morality plays are not supposed to have the most complicated of characters, because they'd get in the way of the play.[/QUOTE]Yes, and today traditional morality plays would be considered underwritten and, in my opinion, not particularly fitting for modern mediums like television and film. And i never said that the show wasn't a (stale) genre excercise, but merely that that was precisly the reason i disliked it. I haven't seen the episode you are referring to, but I'll take your word for it.[/QUOTE]Considering the volumes of philosophy that have been produced over the centuries, I find the requirement that modern morality plays be original to be unrealistic.  It's downright contraditctory to your wish that they be relevant!  Truely new stuff would by definition be unrelated to our lives, and thus irrelevant to us.[/QUOTE]Don't be silly. An idea is not unoriginal if it is relevant. Good ideas are by definition relevant. By that definition, there have been no original ideas in a long time. But to clarify, unoriginal in this context means as in the medium of television, film, or popular culture in general. Trek's themes are insanly derivitave.[/QUOTE]And it isn't like The X-Files were original at the least.  They traded upon conspiracy theory and urban legend - all old stories.[/QUOTE]No, but it had the advantages i have listed earlier, and it implemented those urban legends in an original way.[/QUOTE]Yeah, well, that particular tidbit would quickly get far too close to politics and/or religion, so I'll let it be.[/QUOTE]Yes, it could, but its hard to discuss a show whose one hook (besides the convoluted backdrop) are its ideas without discussing the validity of those ideas. This is literally all Trek has.[/QUOTE]

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