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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 619498" data-attributes="member: 177">This may be true, however, said countries did not, IIRC, have a massive corporate Media Machine in place when they started such funding.&nbsp; Order of operations probably matters.&nbsp; Plus, where did I say the funding should come from the government?&nbsp; All I said was that it be &quot;public&quot; -&nbsp; which does not equate with &quot;government&quot;.&nbsp; Perhaps you don't watch PBS stations much? There are these pretty impressive &quot;begathons&quot; they hold a couple times a year.&nbsp; Without them, PBS stations would fold.&nbsp; But with them, a touch of government funding, and a few corporate donations, they manage some pretty impressive shows.&nbsp; Now, imagine if many more people gave money to support such stations.Heck, you don't even need public TV.&nbsp; You only need publicly funded, non-profit production.&nbsp; Let's think about this for a sec...Someone mentioned that Firefly cost $2 million per episode.&nbsp; So, you get 2 million people together, each pays a whole whopping $22, and there's the production of one season.For $100 per year, the members of Two Million Fans Productions could fund the production of four such shows, and have enough left over for a half-season show like Witchblade.Now, you laugh at me and say, &quot;Ha!&nbsp; That handles producing the show, but not airing it.&quot; Well, that becomes easy.&nbsp; You see, the subscribers of TMFP don't want any profits.&nbsp; They only want to be able to see the show.&nbsp; So, they turn to a channel and say, &quot;I will sell you this show for pennies.&nbsp; Zero overhead.&nbsp; You get every single cent of advertising revenue the show produces.&quot; Now, you set TMFP on scooping up quality shows - Farscape, Firefly, Witchblade - things for which we know there's an audience.&nbsp;&nbsp; People gripe a lot, &quot;The Neilsen's don't represent us!&quot;&nbsp; &quot;The big networks don't care!&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp; But in those cases, people are griping about something for which they've paid nothing more than waiting for the commercials to end.&nbsp; Well, folks, you get what you pay for, now don't you?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 619498, member: 177"] This may be true, however, said countries did not, IIRC, have a massive corporate Media Machine in place when they started such funding. Order of operations probably matters. Plus, where did I say the funding should come from the government? All I said was that it be "public" - which does not equate with "government". Perhaps you don't watch PBS stations much? There are these pretty impressive "begathons" they hold a couple times a year. Without them, PBS stations would fold. But with them, a touch of government funding, and a few corporate donations, they manage some pretty impressive shows. Now, imagine if many more people gave money to support such stations. Heck, you don't even need public TV. You only need publicly funded, non-profit production. Let's think about this for a sec... Someone mentioned that [i]Firefly[/i] cost $2 million per episode. So, you get 2 million people together, each pays a whole whopping $22, and there's the production of one season. For $100 per year, the members of Two Million Fans Productions could fund the production of four such shows, and have enough left over for a half-season show like [i]Witchblade[/i]. Now, you laugh at me and say, "Ha! That handles producing the show, but not airing it." Well, that becomes easy. You see, the subscribers of TMFP don't want any profits. They only want to be able to see the show. So, they turn to a channel and say, "I will sell you this show for [i]pennies[/i]. Zero overhead. You get every single cent of advertising revenue the show produces." Now, you set TMFP on scooping up quality shows - Farscape, Firefly, Witchblade - things for which we know there's an audience. People gripe a lot, "The Neilsen's don't represent us!" "The big networks don't care!". But in those cases, people are griping about something for which they've paid nothing more than waiting for the commercials to end. Well, folks, you get what you pay for, now don't you? [/QUOTE]

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