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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 622714" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>Again, it seems I've got two people to respond to. </p><p></p><p>Mistwell:</p><p></p><p>Sorry, but you're speculating as much as the rest of us. Unless you've got actual data, your "50-50 chance that they are over-representing" carries little to no weight. Sorry. Your contention that there aren't two million viewers out there is dependant upon the Neilsen ratings beign correct - they are the only measure we currently have. However, since we question that system too, we won't eagerly accept your contention that there aren't enough people.</p><p></p><p>And, even if there aren't quite as many viewers as I think - that only means the price for each goes up a bit. So you pay $2 per person per episode, rather than one. That's still less per hour than movie rentals in major metropolitan areas.</p><p></p><p>Villano:</p><p></p><p>Your direct TV bill may not be nothing, but IMHO you err in what you think you're paying for. You aren't paying for the shows. You're paying for a particular method of delivering the shows to your house. In that bill you're paying for a delivery system, not the thing being delivered. If you were paying for the actual shows, you should be up in arms about all the darned commercials <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I disagree that there'd be lots of other people trying to bring back cancelled shows using the method I describe. You don't see massive letter-writing campaigns and 10,000 signatures in 24 hours on internet petitions over most shows. </p><p></p><p>I said this before, but you seem more to ignore it than to counter it - This sort of thing wouldn't be used by most folk, simply because their TV wants are already met. There are loads of sitcomes, prime-time dramas, and so on. If one goes off the air, there's always another. People who like them feel little pressure, because they can find something else to their liking when a show leaves the air. The same cannot be said for sci-fi fans. </p><p></p><p>That's the crux of it - sci-fi fans have <em>repeatedly</em> shown that they feel the need to make a stink over losing beloved shows, where you don't see the same thing each time a cop-show gets cancelled. That indicates that there's something <em>different</em> here. Something that may require a different approach.</p><p></p><p>As for unshown episodes of Firely - we don't yet have confirmation that they will not air the episodes. Only that they don't yet have them on the schedule. In considering airing them, there's more than simple "the money is already gone" to consider.</p><p></p><p>One thing to consider is the fact that if you choose to show those episodes, you'll extend the period over which the fans will gripe about the cancellation. There's something to be said for simply dropping it so that the letters and e-mails and phone calls that disrupt their day go away more quickly. Remember, the time required to process them is money. </p><p></p><p>There's also the possibility of corporate politics entering into the equation. We can speculate on that to our heart's content, but have nothing solid. We should remember, though, that while the general policies may pretty much depend on the bottom line, certain details (like if a few last episodes air or not) may be due to other influences.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 622714, member: 177"] Again, it seems I've got two people to respond to. Mistwell: Sorry, but you're speculating as much as the rest of us. Unless you've got actual data, your "50-50 chance that they are over-representing" carries little to no weight. Sorry. Your contention that there aren't two million viewers out there is dependant upon the Neilsen ratings beign correct - they are the only measure we currently have. However, since we question that system too, we won't eagerly accept your contention that there aren't enough people. And, even if there aren't quite as many viewers as I think - that only means the price for each goes up a bit. So you pay $2 per person per episode, rather than one. That's still less per hour than movie rentals in major metropolitan areas. Villano: Your direct TV bill may not be nothing, but IMHO you err in what you think you're paying for. You aren't paying for the shows. You're paying for a particular method of delivering the shows to your house. In that bill you're paying for a delivery system, not the thing being delivered. If you were paying for the actual shows, you should be up in arms about all the darned commercials :) I disagree that there'd be lots of other people trying to bring back cancelled shows using the method I describe. You don't see massive letter-writing campaigns and 10,000 signatures in 24 hours on internet petitions over most shows. I said this before, but you seem more to ignore it than to counter it - This sort of thing wouldn't be used by most folk, simply because their TV wants are already met. There are loads of sitcomes, prime-time dramas, and so on. If one goes off the air, there's always another. People who like them feel little pressure, because they can find something else to their liking when a show leaves the air. The same cannot be said for sci-fi fans. That's the crux of it - sci-fi fans have [i]repeatedly[/i] shown that they feel the need to make a stink over losing beloved shows, where you don't see the same thing each time a cop-show gets cancelled. That indicates that there's something [i]different[/i] here. Something that may require a different approach. As for unshown episodes of Firely - we don't yet have confirmation that they will not air the episodes. Only that they don't yet have them on the schedule. In considering airing them, there's more than simple "the money is already gone" to consider. One thing to consider is the fact that if you choose to show those episodes, you'll extend the period over which the fans will gripe about the cancellation. There's something to be said for simply dropping it so that the letters and e-mails and phone calls that disrupt their day go away more quickly. Remember, the time required to process them is money. There's also the possibility of corporate politics entering into the equation. We can speculate on that to our heart's content, but have nothing solid. We should remember, though, that while the general policies may pretty much depend on the bottom line, certain details (like if a few last episodes air or not) may be due to other influences. [/QUOTE]
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