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Firefly Reconsidered: Why Firefly Isn't "Hall of Fame" Great
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<blockquote data-quote="Ryujin" data-source="post: 8290573" data-attributes="member: 27897"><p>While I can agree that "Firefly" isn't as epic as we want to remember it, largely due to the "it might have been" (thanks to John Greenleaf Whittier) factor, I do take issue with a couple of points; your definition of Science Fiction and that a body of work must be complete, in order to be of "hall of fame" calibre. </p><p></p><p>Firstly, if someone metaphorically knocks it out of the park then it's just plain excellent. Duration or level of 'completeness' is immaterial. Maybe you need to be more careful that you don't project your own expectations on what the completed thing might have looked like, but good is just plain good.</p><p></p><p>Secondly, your definition of "real" SciFi is far too narrow. I'll start by being a little pedantic. Common use for the whole genre tends to be what you said; SciFi. That encompasses a whole lot of sub genres. When we think of the term 'Science Fiction' it tends to invoke the hard science stuff. Then you have Science Fantasy (Star Wars, etc.). There's Military SF that might be hard science, or otherwise. To my mind, "Firefly" is undoubtedly SciFi. Even "Star Trek" was billed to Paramount Studios execs as, literally, "a Wagon Train to the stars" by Roddenberry and so a "space western." You can clearly see that DNA in some episodes. By your definitions we would throw things like Doc Smith's "The Lensmen" series out of the SciFi category. Sorry, that doesn't fly with me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ryujin, post: 8290573, member: 27897"] While I can agree that "Firefly" isn't as epic as we want to remember it, largely due to the "it might have been" (thanks to John Greenleaf Whittier) factor, I do take issue with a couple of points; your definition of Science Fiction and that a body of work must be complete, in order to be of "hall of fame" calibre. Firstly, if someone metaphorically knocks it out of the park then it's just plain excellent. Duration or level of 'completeness' is immaterial. Maybe you need to be more careful that you don't project your own expectations on what the completed thing might have looked like, but good is just plain good. Secondly, your definition of "real" SciFi is far too narrow. I'll start by being a little pedantic. Common use for the whole genre tends to be what you said; SciFi. That encompasses a whole lot of sub genres. When we think of the term 'Science Fiction' it tends to invoke the hard science stuff. Then you have Science Fantasy (Star Wars, etc.). There's Military SF that might be hard science, or otherwise. To my mind, "Firefly" is undoubtedly SciFi. Even "Star Trek" was billed to Paramount Studios execs as, literally, "a Wagon Train to the stars" by Roddenberry and so a "space western." You can clearly see that DNA in some episodes. By your definitions we would throw things like Doc Smith's "The Lensmen" series out of the SciFi category. Sorry, that doesn't fly with me. [/QUOTE]
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