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<blockquote data-quote="Willie the Duck" data-source="post: 9876641" data-attributes="member: 6799660"><p>This is the big problem, in my mind. Firefly was a moment in time, lightning in a bottle. There wasn't something ridiculously engaging about the world in which it was set, nor were the ship and crew fascinating new character archetypes. It was the chemistry of the actors, combined with engaging dialogue and situations. This is why I'm always hesitant when people talk about a <em>Babylon 5</em> reboot -- it wasn't the universe or the story that made it magical, it was the actors, their chemistry, and the specific script (we still have JM Straczynski, but that's 1 of 3 and who knows if he can mentally un-move-on). Same reason why the <em>Friends</em> cast resisted any revivals and only ended up with a cast reunion.</p><p></p><p>With <em>Firefly</em>, we have the cast (minus Ron Glass), and presumably their chemistry. We don't (and realistically can't) have Whedon -- although we could have his writing room (unless Marti Noxon, or the actual Firefly regulars like Ben Edlund, Jane Espenson, Drew Z. Greenberg, Tim Minear, and Jose Molina have equal issues). There supposedly is a script, undoubtedly on brand, but who knows how good. </p><p></p><p>We are definitely constrained in story based on it having to take place in the nebulous time between show and movie, and with things ending up as they were at the start of the movie (particularly with regards to how many more secrets of the universe the crew can become privy to). </p><p></p><p>Perhaps, for me, the biggest (and most relevant to my lightning in a bottle comment) issue is that the continuing adventures of the <em>Serenity </em>crew might not be that interesting. The thematic trope of a gang of good-hearted ne'er-do-wells always one step ahead of the law and one step behind a real payout is a wonderful framing device for a story, but it can rapidly run out of steam if used in an ongoing series. I remember many op-eds over the past 2 decades saying that <em>Firefly </em>might ultimately have been saved (in the hearts and minds of fans) by it's abrupt cancellation before it had time to have a bunch of filler episodes or the like. I don't necessarily agree (because the writers would have done something to address the issue, and we don't know what it would have been), but I don't necessarily disagree either. Firefly is the great unknown -- the what-could-it-have-been -- it's entirely possible that the answer would have been 'forgettable after the first half-season.'</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Willie the Duck, post: 9876641, member: 6799660"] This is the big problem, in my mind. Firefly was a moment in time, lightning in a bottle. There wasn't something ridiculously engaging about the world in which it was set, nor were the ship and crew fascinating new character archetypes. It was the chemistry of the actors, combined with engaging dialogue and situations. This is why I'm always hesitant when people talk about a [I]Babylon 5[/I] reboot -- it wasn't the universe or the story that made it magical, it was the actors, their chemistry, and the specific script (we still have JM Straczynski, but that's 1 of 3 and who knows if he can mentally un-move-on). Same reason why the [I]Friends[/I] cast resisted any revivals and only ended up with a cast reunion. With [I]Firefly[/I], we have the cast (minus Ron Glass), and presumably their chemistry. We don't (and realistically can't) have Whedon -- although we could have his writing room (unless Marti Noxon, or the actual Firefly regulars like Ben Edlund, Jane Espenson, Drew Z. Greenberg, Tim Minear, and Jose Molina have equal issues). There supposedly is a script, undoubtedly on brand, but who knows how good. We are definitely constrained in story based on it having to take place in the nebulous time between show and movie, and with things ending up as they were at the start of the movie (particularly with regards to how many more secrets of the universe the crew can become privy to). Perhaps, for me, the biggest (and most relevant to my lightning in a bottle comment) issue is that the continuing adventures of the [I]Serenity [/I]crew might not be that interesting. The thematic trope of a gang of good-hearted ne'er-do-wells always one step ahead of the law and one step behind a real payout is a wonderful framing device for a story, but it can rapidly run out of steam if used in an ongoing series. I remember many op-eds over the past 2 decades saying that [I]Firefly [/I]might ultimately have been saved (in the hearts and minds of fans) by it's abrupt cancellation before it had time to have a bunch of filler episodes or the like. I don't necessarily agree (because the writers would have done something to address the issue, and we don't know what it would have been), but I don't necessarily disagree either. Firefly is the great unknown -- the what-could-it-have-been -- it's entirely possible that the answer would have been 'forgettable after the first half-season.' [/QUOTE]
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