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<blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 927988" data-attributes="member: 6875">Some of your bonusses are indeed working towards gettign through the target's armor.Otherwise, why wouldn't armor work against TOUCH attacks?Picture this: A monk/sorceror; his unarmed attack bonus totals to, oh ... let's say, a nice big +10.He attacks a foe who has Dexterity 12 and Full Plate Armor +5, for AC 24 (touch AC 11).Our erstwhile monk/sorceror tries to punch his enemy, and rolls a 10.&nbsp; 10+10=20, not enough to &quot;hit&quot; an AC of 24.Next (beinghasted) he decides to try casting &lt;i&gt;chill touch&lt;/i&gt;, iand again rolls a 10.&nbsp; 10+10=20, enough to touch his foe and deliver the spell.Same bonus to hit, same target; a touch worked but a punch didn't.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; That armor, that's why.Now, our monk's twin brother shows up, wearing his Necklace of Natural Weapons +5.&nbsp; He, too tries to punch the plate-armored foe, and also rolls a 10.&nbsp; His attack bonus, however, is +15, including the necklace.&nbsp; 10+15=25 ... enough to do harm, despite the armor.Both of them rolled high enough on ALL attacks to touch the plate-armored foe; the first twin failed to get &quot;through&quot; the armor to the foe within, and couldn't score any damage.The second twin, however, had a +5 magical bonus &quot;to hit&quot;, and was able, with the SAME accuracy of blow (10 roll, +10 skill), do damage.&nbsp; IOW, he somehow got &quot;through&quot; the armor....Therefor, his magical bonus &quot;to hit&quot; was a bonus &quot;to penetrate the foe's armor&quot;.&nbsp; D&amp;D is intentionally vague as to how and why enhancement bonusses on magic weapons make them more able to hit -- perhaps they're more accurate, or perhaps they go through steel armor like a hot knife through warm butter.Could be either; most likely it's a combination of the two.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pax, post: 927988, member: 6875"] Some of your bonusses are [b]indeed[/b] working towards gettign [b]through[/b] the target's armor. Otherwise, why wouldn't armor work against TOUCH attacks? Picture this: A monk/sorceror; his unarmed attack bonus totals to, oh ... let's say, a nice big +10. He attacks a foe who has Dexterity 12 and Full Plate Armor +5, for AC 24 (touch AC 11). Our erstwhile monk/sorceror tries to punch his enemy, and rolls a 10. 10+10=20, not enough to "hit" an AC of 24. Next (beinghasted) he decides to try casting chill touch, iand again rolls a 10. 10+10=20, enough to touch his foe and deliver the spell. Same bonus to hit, same target; a touch worked but a punch didn't. Why? That armor, that's why. Now, our monk's twin brother shows up, wearing his [i]Necklace of Natural Weapons +5[/i]. He, too tries to punch the plate-armored foe, and also rolls a 10. [b]His[/b] attack bonus, however, is +15, including the necklace. 10+15=25 ... enough to do harm, despite the armor. [b]Both[/b] of them rolled high enough on ALL attacks to [b]touch[/b] the plate-armored foe; the first twin failed to get "through" the armor to the foe within, and couldn't score any damage. The second twin, however, had a +5 magical bonus "to hit", and was able, with the SAME accuracy of blow (10 roll, +10 skill), do damage. IOW, he somehow got "through" the armor. ... Therefor, his magical bonus "to hit" was a bonus "to penetrate the foe's armor". D&D is intentionally vague as to how and why enhancement bonusses on magic weapons make them more able to hit -- perhaps they're more accurate, [i]or perhaps they go through steel armor like a hot knife through warm butter.[/i] Could be either; most likely it's a combination of the two. [/QUOTE]

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