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<blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 928403" data-attributes="member: 6875">One action.&nbsp; One set of circumstances.&nbsp; Either the arrow is magical, or it is not, for that action, in that set of circumstances.&nbsp; You don't get to go half-and-half.Whichis very fortunate for you, and something I am very grateful for.However, when a question not previously addressed by rules which model a real-world situation comes up ... the best thing to do is go back to the real-world situation you're modelling, and answer the question from there.An attack with a bow is one action, not two.&nbsp; You either get the arrow bonus to the whole action, or to none of it.And IMC, you personally, and maybe ONLY you, would notonly not get the arrow bonus, you probably wouldn't get the BOW bonus anymore, either.&nbsp; Debating the rules is one thing, but your hair-splitting goes well and truly beyond acceptible limits.Penetration woudl have to occur at the target; accuracy could occur before the target, at the target, or both.&quot;At the target&quot; is an antimagic field, wherein magical benefits no longer apply.&nbsp; Ergo ... the arrow benefits don't apply ... especially if any or all of the benefit to hit is based on enhanced armor penetration.The bonus to damage is from the same (single) enhancement bonus as teh bonus to hit.&nbsp; Either that bonus functions all the way, or, not at all.You can't have your cake and eat it too.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pax, post: 928403, member: 6875"] One action. One set of circumstances. Either the arrow is magical, or it is not, for that action, in that set of circumstances. You don't get to go half-and-half. Whichis very fortunate for you, and something I am very grateful for. However, when a question not previously addressed by rules which model a real-world situation comes up ... the [b]best[/b] thing to do is go back to the real-world situation you're modelling, and answer the question from there. An attack with a bow is one action, not two. You either get the arrow bonus to the whole action, or to none of it. And IMC, you personally, and maybe ONLY you, would notonly not get the arrow bonus, you probably wouldn't get the BOW bonus anymore, either. Debating the rules is one thing, but your hair-splitting goes well and truly beyond acceptible limits. Penetration woudl have to occur at the target; accuracy could occur before the target, at the target, or both. "At the target" is an antimagic field, wherein magical benefits no longer apply. [b]Ergo[/b] ... the arrow benefits don't apply ... [b]especially[/b] if any or all of the benefit to hit is based on enhanced armor penetration. The bonus to damage is from the same (single) enhancement bonus as teh bonus to hit. Either that bonus functions all the way, or, not at all. You can't have your cake and eat it too. [/QUOTE]

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