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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Camarath" data-source="post: 929979" data-attributes="member: 11987">Tallarn the point fo the chronology I presented was the placement and timing of the attack roll and damage roll. This I feel is the cirtical issue. Wile I understand your interprtation, I do not understand how one is denied a bonus from an item that has not been suppressed yet. Where and when does your attack roll happen? I think it happens in your own square before the arrow leaves your square. Am I wrong?Also I am not upset. Pax maybe but I am not. Sorry if I have come across as rude I did not mean to if I did. This is not a gaming secession it is a rule forum and I thought I could discusse how the rules should be interprited here. I would not do this during a game or even after if the DM ruled on it. My interest here is game mechanics not power gaming.</blockquote>