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<blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 5360177" data-attributes="member: 16285">Complete Arcane pg 72&quot;Any spell that requires an attack roll and deals damage functions as a weapon in certain respects.&quot;Rules Compendium pg 132&quot;Any spell that requires an attack roll is weaponlike. .. . weaponlike spells fall into twp categories - ranged spells and touch spells.&nbsp; Ranged spells include those that require ranged touch attack rolls, surch as rays and huyrled missile effects.&quot;Rules Compendium pg 134&quot;You aim a ray as if using a ranged weapon,. . .Intervening creatures can block your shot or provide cover for the creature you are aiming at.&quot;It is not strictly the &quot;type&quot; of action being used that generates an AoO it is the action of making an attack with a ranged weapon.&nbsp; A rules terminology peculiarity.&nbsp; For example an archer with multiple attacks is using a full attack action in order to do so with his longbow.&nbsp; The full attack action does not generate an AoO but attack (Ranged) does. Does he generate an AoO by attacking with his bow for attacking someone at range? Or ar you claiming that he does not generate an AoO when using the full attack but only when making a single attack?PHB pg 135.It doesn't say attack action with a ranged weapon it says attacking with a ranged weapon.If it requires an attack roll and deals damage or negative levels it is a weaponlike spell and functions like a weapon - otherwise it is a pure spell. Acid Arrow is a weaponlike spell that requries a ranged touch attack (hence it functions like a weapon) the other two do not.Yup, just like when an archer makes multiple attacks he generates an AoO with each shot (same as redirecting) becasue each is an attack.Magic Weapon is a weapon like spell - but it is not a ranged attack.&nbsp; Weapon is created and then it attacks using your BAB and Wis modifier. All ranged attacks use your Dex mod including rays. Even though it weapon like it is specifically excluding from some of the feats that are possible to use with weapon like spells (see spell entry for details).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="irdeggman, post: 5360177, member: 16285"] Complete Arcane pg 72 "Any spell that requires an attack roll and deals damage functions as a weapon in certain respects." Rules Compendium pg 132 "Any spell that requires an attack roll is weaponlike. .. . weaponlike spells fall into twp categories - ranged spells and touch spells. Ranged spells include those that require ranged touch attack rolls, surch as rays and huyrled missile effects." Rules Compendium pg 134 "You aim a ray [B]as if using a ranged weapon[/B],. . .Intervening creatures can block your shot or provide cover for the creature you are aiming at." It is not strictly the "type" of action being used that generates an AoO it is the action of making an attack with a ranged weapon. A rules terminology peculiarity. For example an archer with multiple attacks is using a full attack action in order to do so with his longbow. The full attack action does not generate an AoO but attack (Ranged) does. Does he generate an AoO by attacking with his bow for attacking someone at range? Or ar you claiming that he does not generate an AoO when using the full attack but only when making a single attack? PHB pg 135 . It doesn't say attack action with a ranged weapon it says attacking with a ranged weapon. If it requires an attack roll and deals damage or negative levels it is a weaponlike spell and functions like a weapon - otherwise it is a pure spell. Acid Arrow is a weaponlike spell that requries a ranged touch attack (hence it functions like a weapon) the other two do not. Yup, just like when an archer makes multiple attacks he generates an AoO with each shot (same as redirecting) becasue each is an attack. Magic Weapon is a weapon like spell - but it is not a ranged attack. Weapon is created and then it attacks using your BAB and Wis modifier. All ranged attacks use your Dex mod including rays. Even though it weapon like it is specifically excluding from some of the feats that are possible to use with weapon like spells (see spell entry for details). [/QUOTE]

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