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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 4313656" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>You're right, the sarcasm was too strong, I admit my jerkitude. I'm sorry. </p><p></p><p>I still think that anyone who outright dismisses all 3rd party materials is being a scaredy-cat at best, and those who act like they are <em>better</em> for it are just wrong.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Liking or not liking fourth edition is not casually linked to thinking that WotC is a big evil corporation. People have been thinking WotC is a big evil corporation since the days before they had D&D. It's not new, it's not in vogue, it's old and boring. Liking WotC is not something counter-culture and rebellious, it is what most people do, because they're a pretty good company. And neither of those have anything to do with the moderation policy of this board.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not really asking anyone to justify their decision not to buy anything.</p><p></p><p>I'm mostly criticising one specific excuse that people do give when asked about why they don't: that WotC's products are somehow inherently superior. </p><p></p><p>I find that to be a little sad, and kind of condescending.</p><p></p><p>WotC makes some good stuff. 3rd parties make some good stuff, some of which WotC can't or won't do. To rule out all of the 3rd party material and then to pretend that the 3rd party material, as a whole, isn't as worthy as a WotC product, is a pretty deeply flawed line of reasoning.</p><p></p><p>You think WotC is the best? Sure, more power too ya. You're only interested in what WotC makes? Okay, but that's too narrow for my tastes, and I'm a little sad that your games won't have some nifty things, but whatever, have fun. You think that WotC makes excellent products and that 3rd party products are uniformly worse? Now you're getting off the chart.</p><p></p><p>...now as to what Jack99 is actually saying....</p><p></p><p>I think WotC doesn't really bear the responsibility for the quality of the 3rd party. If you don't like it, you probably shouldn't buy it, but WotC shouldn't be shooting things down just because they aren't pretty enough (or they're unbalanced or they're too hard or whatever). The GSL isn't really about quality control.</p><p></p><p>I don't think WotC cares about how good this little encounter is, how well it's presented, or even if it's properly balanced. They probably care more about the community feeling this creates, and the fact that a fan is adding to the game in a way that makes the fan feel empowered. Caveat emptor and all that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 4313656, member: 2067"] You're right, the sarcasm was too strong, I admit my jerkitude. I'm sorry. I still think that anyone who outright dismisses all 3rd party materials is being a scaredy-cat at best, and those who act like they are [I]better[/I] for it are just wrong. Liking or not liking fourth edition is not casually linked to thinking that WotC is a big evil corporation. People have been thinking WotC is a big evil corporation since the days before they had D&D. It's not new, it's not in vogue, it's old and boring. Liking WotC is not something counter-culture and rebellious, it is what most people do, because they're a pretty good company. And neither of those have anything to do with the moderation policy of this board. I'm not really asking anyone to justify their decision not to buy anything. I'm mostly criticising one specific excuse that people do give when asked about why they don't: that WotC's products are somehow inherently superior. I find that to be a little sad, and kind of condescending. WotC makes some good stuff. 3rd parties make some good stuff, some of which WotC can't or won't do. To rule out all of the 3rd party material and then to pretend that the 3rd party material, as a whole, isn't as worthy as a WotC product, is a pretty deeply flawed line of reasoning. You think WotC is the best? Sure, more power too ya. You're only interested in what WotC makes? Okay, but that's too narrow for my tastes, and I'm a little sad that your games won't have some nifty things, but whatever, have fun. You think that WotC makes excellent products and that 3rd party products are uniformly worse? Now you're getting off the chart. ...now as to what Jack99 is actually saying.... I think WotC doesn't really bear the responsibility for the quality of the 3rd party. If you don't like it, you probably shouldn't buy it, but WotC shouldn't be shooting things down just because they aren't pretty enough (or they're unbalanced or they're too hard or whatever). The GSL isn't really about quality control. I don't think WotC cares about how good this little encounter is, how well it's presented, or even if it's properly balanced. They probably care more about the community feeling this creates, and the fact that a fan is adding to the game in a way that makes the fan feel empowered. Caveat emptor and all that. [/QUOTE]
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