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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Darrin Drader" data-source="post: 4313835" data-attributes="member: 7394">I've seen it often and like I said, it gets my blood pressure up when I see it.Keep in mind that this is coming from me, a guy who has had most of my published work published through Wizards. I freaking love Wizards, I just don't love them to the exclusion of all others. Same here. I'd also like to point out that Wizards took many cues from OGL products on how to better their own. Pinnacle released a monster book towards the end of 3.0 called Liber Bestarius that included badass versions of their monsters. Later, WotC released advanced versions of some of their monsters in the 3.5 Monster Manual. Racial substitution levels also didn't originate with WotC. And didn't Iron Heroes in some way influence the Book of Nine Swords (I'm a little shaky on this one since I don't actually own the Book of Nine Swords).Again, I agree. Some of my favorite OGL books include the Babylon 5 RPG, True20, Darwin's World 2nd edition, Tome of Horrors I-III, Denizens of Avadnu, Book of Fiends, and Dungeon Crawl Classics #35. Those are, in my opinion, all excellent books, and they are exactly the kinds of books I hope to see more of from third party publishers in the future.Granted, there is that other list full of products that I'm not so fond of, and I don't think I'll offend Mongoose at all if I mention Sheoloth: City of the Drow as being one of those books, given that they have themselves admitted that it was less than wonderful. There are of course the other products released by inexperienced publishers, or projects that ran afoul of one problem or another, that were also less than stellar. As someone said earlier, caveat emptor, and all that. But if the reviews are good and the only thing people can say about a 3PP product is that it isn't official D&D, I get irritated.</blockquote>

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