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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ronpurvis" data-source="post: 1989415" data-attributes="member: 26029">Thank you both for your comments. I appreciate the suggestions. Hopefully it will become a decent class after all suggestions and revisions are made.I actually thought about limiting it to clerics only, but I figured paladins might want to go for this sometimes. My thinking here was that the paladin is more of a knight and would seldom be the type of person who would have the background to become a foot soldier of God.  Think more of the the homicide bomber in Palastine who hates Jews (that he thinks iare evil) so much that he will kill himself just for a chance to kill them. Or the anti abortion bomber, who will possibly kill doctors so they won't perform abortions. That was the feel that I was going for and I don't think many Paladins would go for this. Does this make sense?I will change it to 8 ranks of Knowledge (religion). That was a miscalculation.I did use the Cleric and Paladin classes to base my class on.  I left those three areas of Knowledge in because the character would have not only started off as a cleric, but usually been raised by them. I mentioned in the description that they usually turn to the god of those who saved them. What I should have also mentioned is that many of them will be taken in by the church as orphans. This means that they will have in large part grown up around clerics who have taught them these areas of knowledge. On the other hand they don't have the knowledge of nobility and royalty that a Paladin would have since they are typically from the lower classes.You are right, I left out that the skill points at each additional level is 2 + Int.You are right. It should have the same BAB as a cleric. While he is  very much oriented towards warfare against evil, his teachers have primarilly been clerics. I was trying to keep the class from being too powerful, but now I think that this was the wrong area to change.Ok.I really was looking for this type of character to be more of a cleric who was fanatical about going after the major evil that they see as a threat to the world.  I really wanted them to have trained as a cleric even if they have levels in a different class. THat is why I put in the description that he will have trained as a cleric. I guess I should have just listed Cleric as a requirement the same way the Incarnate prestige class lists Druid as a requirement. The question is; does this make the class unusable?I can do that.See the the comments above. I do feel that the extra turning is something I want to give simply because the undead are such an evil presence. I didn't intend for it just to be a mechanism to give extra uses of the other abilities but instead to be a way for them to take the lead if the party come across the undead. I agree with you on the other abilities mentioned.These sound good.This one sound really good.I assume that if the PC has the extra turning feat this be usable the additional times. Even if I don't give the feat as a bonus, this would be something the PC would almost certainly take at some point. Most low level clerics take this feat in order to more useful to the party. A PC who really wants to destroy evil everywhere they see it, would likely take it also.These also sound good. They seem to focus the power more to what I was looking for but didn't know how to do.I really want to use the War domain simply because he is a foot soldier. It also grants the weapon focus feat. I could allow the PC to keep three feats but I thought that make it too powerful or unbalanced. Is that a problem with the changes discussed?</blockquote>

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