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<blockquote data-quote="The Grassy Gnoll" data-source="post: 6880106" data-attributes="member: 6788652">It seems a little harsh to judge an entire edition based on one session with an inexperienced DM.I take it the DM and the group were new or newish to you as well.It feels like a perfect setting for confirmation bias to thrive: inexperienced role players around you, inexperienced DM behind the screen, is going to result in a less polished experience, which will colour your thoughts. Possibly (subconsciously) this scenario was sought on purpose in order to confirm your preference for the older version you are comfortable with and enjoy.A fairer test would involve (a) more than one session, for starters; (b) more control of variables - an experienced DM with an inexperienced group, or a newby DM with an experienced group, would be better for comparison purposes than both at once.It's like The Departed. My other half started to watch it 2 mins before DiCaprio gets his broken arm re broken. She hates scenes like that, of torture. Instantly decided on the basis of that 5 minutes worth that the film was horrible and not for her. Eventually when she watched it from the start she saw how good a film it is and enjoyed it very much. What I'm saying is, don't judge 5e and dismiss it based on one scene in one adventure which sounds unlike the kind of adventures you tend to enjoy anyway, played with new people, all of whom, DM included, lacked experience of RP and 5e itself.You're kind of setting yourself up to fail to like it.Give it a bit longer. Of course, you might just not like it full stop. Which is fine, of course, but give it a fair shake first.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Grassy Gnoll, post: 6880106, member: 6788652"] It seems a little harsh to judge an entire edition based on one session with an inexperienced DM. I take it the DM and the group were new or newish to you as well. It feels like a perfect setting for confirmation bias to thrive: inexperienced role players around you, inexperienced DM behind the screen, is going to result in a less polished experience, which will colour your thoughts. Possibly (subconsciously) this scenario was sought on purpose in order to confirm your preference for the older version you are comfortable with and enjoy. A fairer test would involve (a) more than one session, for starters; (b) more control of variables - an experienced DM with an inexperienced group, or a newby DM with an experienced group, would be better for comparison purposes than both at once. It's like The Departed. My other half started to watch it 2 mins before DiCaprio gets his broken arm re broken. She hates scenes like that, of torture. Instantly decided on the basis of that 5 minutes worth that the film was horrible and not for her. Eventually when she watched it from the start she saw how good a film it is and enjoyed it very much. What I'm saying is, don't judge 5e and dismiss it based on one scene in one adventure which sounds unlike the kind of adventures you tend to enjoy anyway, played with new people, all of whom, DM included, lacked experience of RP and 5e itself. You're kind of setting yourself up to fail to like it. Give it a bit longer. Of course, you might just not like it full stop. Which is fine, of course, but give it a fair shake first. [/QUOTE]

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