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<blockquote data-quote="Imaculata" data-source="post: 6880484" data-attributes="member: 6801286"><p>My biggest criticism of 5th edition, is that it is simply not different enough from previous systems. Its a perfect blend of elements from 2nd and third edition, but with everything more streamlined and made more accessible. All positive things. But I feel it is also a missed opportunity to do away with some of the illogical rules inherent to DnD. </p><p></p><p>Such as the way armor works (armor makes you harder to hit, but has no effect on how much damage you take. The exact opposite of reality), or the way weapons work (all melee weapons are pretty much the same. No mechanical difference between piercing, bludgeoning and slashing).</p><p></p><p>They also didn't change much about the way spells work. There was some opportunity here to introduce some actual magical dueling into DnD.</p><p></p><p>And they didn't change DnD's illogical initiative system. It is exactly the same as in 3.5. But meanwhile there's been quite a lot of advancements in tabletop combat games. There are many systems out there nowadays that have more dynamic and realistic initiative rules, that are not based on just a random dice roll, but on the situation.</p><p></p><p>If I were to consider a new system, then I would want a system that doesn't feel almost exactly the same as the system I'm already playing, but with less detail. I'd want something that feels like a clear improvement over the previous system (aside from 4th edition). And offers something that wasn't there before.</p><p></p><p>Now it was not my intention to turn this thread into another edition wars. I just wanted to clarify the context of my opinion on 5th edition. This was an opportunity for me to try an edition that I had not tried before. And I enjoyed it. But it wasn't good enough to convince me to switch.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I wouldn't say that this experience has put me off 5th edition entirely. I wouldn't mind playing along with another 5th edition game in the (near) future. But it won't sway me to switch editions either. Because with what I've seen so far, there was nothing that stuck out as a huge improvement to me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaculata, post: 6880484, member: 6801286"] My biggest criticism of 5th edition, is that it is simply not different enough from previous systems. Its a perfect blend of elements from 2nd and third edition, but with everything more streamlined and made more accessible. All positive things. But I feel it is also a missed opportunity to do away with some of the illogical rules inherent to DnD. Such as the way armor works (armor makes you harder to hit, but has no effect on how much damage you take. The exact opposite of reality), or the way weapons work (all melee weapons are pretty much the same. No mechanical difference between piercing, bludgeoning and slashing). They also didn't change much about the way spells work. There was some opportunity here to introduce some actual magical dueling into DnD. And they didn't change DnD's illogical initiative system. It is exactly the same as in 3.5. But meanwhile there's been quite a lot of advancements in tabletop combat games. There are many systems out there nowadays that have more dynamic and realistic initiative rules, that are not based on just a random dice roll, but on the situation. If I were to consider a new system, then I would want a system that doesn't feel almost exactly the same as the system I'm already playing, but with less detail. I'd want something that feels like a clear improvement over the previous system (aside from 4th edition). And offers something that wasn't there before. Now it was not my intention to turn this thread into another edition wars. I just wanted to clarify the context of my opinion on 5th edition. This was an opportunity for me to try an edition that I had not tried before. And I enjoyed it. But it wasn't good enough to convince me to switch. I wouldn't say that this experience has put me off 5th edition entirely. I wouldn't mind playing along with another 5th edition game in the (near) future. But it won't sway me to switch editions either. Because with what I've seen so far, there was nothing that stuck out as a huge improvement to me. [/QUOTE]
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