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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 6881418" data-attributes="member: 6801845">My definition of a fighter being a magic user is certainly different from yours.  No matter how you fluff it, several of a fighter's powers (to me and everyone I ever played 4E with) felt like magic.  It might be slightly more accurate to say they felt supernatural.Why?  Well, they were limited to x number of times, just like a vancian spellcaster.  They often didn't have a logical explanation such as my fighter's Rain of Steel giving him an aura of auto damage.  I know it was justified  by saying my dwarf flailed his hammer around wildly, but that made zero sense. The fluff never explained how Come and Get It worked with non-sentient creatures.Can you have descriptive text?  Sure.  But that doesn't make the fact that I can stun most enemies (assuming they were not immune to stun from any source) with my hammer whether or not they have a physiology that includes a brain a non-supernatural power.Nope.  Every class can use magic.  A champion fighter is quite capable with nary a spell in sight. All I can say is that many of us would just shrug when the rogue cast what his player called "Cone of Daggers" spell (flurry of daggers?) because we all had a hard time envisioning anything but a cartoon/anime version of someone throwing daggers.  Or a spell.I have no problem with people liking different versions of the game.  I just take issue with broad statements like "veteran players don't...".  It will be true with some people and not others.  Just like some people like sushi* but I don't, some people will like different versions of the game.  I just don't see the point of trashing a version of the game you hate.  On a message board dedicated to that version of the game.*If I hear one more person say "you just haven't had good sushi" I may have to slap them.  I've tried sushi multiple times, sometimes paying an exorbitant amount of money for the privalege.</blockquote>

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