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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 6885409" data-attributes="member: 83242">It seems, by emphasizing storytelling, you are shifting the goal posts a bit.&nbsp; The original issue was about whether or not significant changes where made (to warrant the change from 3.5e to 5e).&nbsp; Not whether or not they had a significant effect on storytelling.&nbsp; It is an odd shift in discussion as you are now saying rules don't matter to story telling, and if that is the case - why would that be different in 5e?Heck, some people play D&amp;D with little to no storytelling (or what I would call storytelling).Finally, to be clear I don't disagree with your premise (that is not different enough to change)&nbsp; I feel the same way about the 4e-5e transition.&nbsp; We have made the transition, but it is not really different enough for me.&nbsp; After the sacred cow slaughter of 4e I was ready for more cows to go down in 5e (but I knew that wasn't going to happen).&nbsp; That being said I really like 5e, pretty just as much as 4e and a lot more than 1e.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 6885409, member: 83242"] It seems, by emphasizing storytelling, you are shifting the goal posts a bit. The original issue was about whether or not significant changes where made (to warrant the change from 3.5e to 5e). Not whether or not they had a significant effect on storytelling. It is an odd shift in discussion as you are now saying rules don't matter to story telling, and if that is the case - why would that be different in 5e? Heck, some people play D&D with little to no storytelling (or what I would call storytelling). Finally, to be clear I don't disagree with your premise (that is not different enough to change) I feel the same way about the 4e-5e transition. We have made the transition, but it is not really different enough for me. After the sacred cow slaughter of 4e I was ready for more cows to go down in 5e (but I knew that wasn't going to happen). That being said I really like 5e, pretty just as much as 4e and a lot more than 1e. [/QUOTE]

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