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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MerricB" data-source="post: 5466605" data-attributes="member: 3586">Hard to say without trying it - and I likely won't get to play these games that often. Not because I don't like it, but because I own over 250 boardgames, and I tend to gravitate towards the heavier ones. I'd say that having both opens up the options for richer gameplay, but we'll really get to see how that works once the tinkerers post combination ideas.Very much so. These games are really, really good gateways to 4E D&D - in perfect truth, I think they're better value than the Red Box set. You won't learn many of the 4E rules, but you'll become familiar with the move + attack structure and attack rolls, which are so important to the game.Cheers!</blockquote>