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<blockquote data-quote="Olive" data-source="post: 1201811" data-attributes="member: 1297"><p>Maybe 5th but lower the save DC to 15? I agree that the psuedonatural template is better than the celestial etc., but the backlash is potentially pretty nasty.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That was the original logic. It's really a divination spell that uses teleportation magic, so it's usefullness and therefore it's level kinda need to be balanced in comparison with those. And to my mind it's closer to 4th level divinations than <em>contact other plane</em>.</p><p></p><p>Also, the other major 5th level conjuration [telportation] spell is teleport itself. And it's hardly that good.</p><p></p><p>I'm starting to think 4th for the ILL.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hmmm. Perhaps Conjuration (Summoning) would be better. Mo?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I certainly hadn't really thought about it in these terms. I tend to allow library's to give +X to knowledge checks (depending on the library - I've been generally using the rules in the <em>Stronghold Builder's Guide</em>), so one book might not give any more than a +1. It's really for investigative purposes from the way Mo explained it, although it could be used to discover names of creatures for planar binding.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Olive, post: 1201811, member: 1297"] Maybe 5th but lower the save DC to 15? I agree that the psuedonatural template is better than the celestial etc., but the backlash is potentially pretty nasty. That was the original logic. It's really a divination spell that uses teleportation magic, so it's usefullness and therefore it's level kinda need to be balanced in comparison with those. And to my mind it's closer to 4th level divinations than [I]contact other plane[/I]. Also, the other major 5th level conjuration [telportation] spell is teleport itself. And it's hardly that good. I'm starting to think 4th for the ILL. Hmmm. Perhaps Conjuration (Summoning) would be better. Mo? I certainly hadn't really thought about it in these terms. I tend to allow library's to give +X to knowledge checks (depending on the library - I've been generally using the rules in the [I]Stronghold Builder's Guide[/I]), so one book might not give any more than a +1. It's really for investigative purposes from the way Mo explained it, although it could be used to discover names of creatures for planar binding. [/QUOTE]
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