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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Spell" data-source="post: 4013405" data-attributes="member: 19718">if i can throw my two pences in, i will tell you why *my* perspective of the new edition is more and more negative the more i read about it.pretty much the only thing i care about the new edition is:1. smoother, less tactical combat, as independent as possible from miniatures.2. more freedom to customize the system by dropping whatever rule i don't like, without having to get a headache to understand the extension of a give change over many integrated subsytem (please notice that this is not necessarily a call for a return to "illogical" subsystem a la 2e).3. a system that doesn't require me to spend hours to convert old adventures that i collected in my 16 years of gaming, hailing from the days od BECM, 1e, and 2e.4. (less important) a "generic" ruleset that can make me run adventures in dark sun, "vanilla" medieval with magic, homebrw oddities that might mix literary sources with manga, ravenloft (black box, "hardcore" gothic fantasy).do i get 1? yes and no. the combat, apparently will be smoother BUT the miniatures will still be there (meaning that it will be tactical, rather than freeform/ narrative). ok, no too big a deal. i can house rule that out, maybe.do i get 2? mmmh... nothing has been said for sure. on one hand, they want the job for the DM to be easier. which could mean more customization. on the other, i opened the races and classes book at my FLGS, and what do i read? that the 3e ruleset was the greatest thing ever. all of the sudden, it seems that "making the job easier" will be "we will take the toy out of your hand. you can watch us play with it, though".3? by all accounts, not even 3e books will be more or less directly protable in the new edition.4? again, this remains to be seen. yes, there are WoW elements, and the fluff is there... but unless these elements don't shape the ruleset too heavily in one specific direction, i don't mind. (actually, i salute the return of descriptive and evocative in D&D core books!)i have stopped roleplaying more or less because of 3e, among other external factors. even when i think of starting a campaign today, or to run a one shot for my friends should we have the time, i NEVER consider 3e.the people designing 4e have taken part to the big disappointment (for me) that was 3e.i see some parallels between what happens with the computer program that was being developed for 3e (they promised the moon, and then we got e-tools months and months later the expected date) and the way the magazines are being handled online.i see the same tone of "yeah, but you don't know the whole picture, so why are you freaking out" from some wotc people. (yes, they are right. we don't know everything. but if they reveal rule A and this freaks people out, they should reveal more, or just explain things).so, 4e might be FANTASTIC. the best thing ever. i'm honestly hoping it will be. but there are many things that make me feel like it's one of those things that i'd better buy used from amazon 6-18 months after they come out. at least i would get a new printing and it would be cheaper.</blockquote>

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