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<blockquote data-quote="Shard O'Glase" data-source="post: 1551267" data-attributes="member: 1134"><p>I've never met anyone who played the class for more than a couple levels say anything other than that they are overpowered. I freely admit my experiences may not be the norm etc. But for us when the character was 1st made he strted out as a cleric, he gained 2 more levels in cleric doing fairly well all the way. He had a low str compared to the other cleric since his int matered but otherwise fairly good, and heck the high int gave him a good amount of skill points so he rocked in things like diplomacy. When he pcked up wizard maybe he was a bit weaker but at these levels it really doesn't make much of a difference, though when he hit wizard level 2 and 3 he did seema smidge subpar. Once he picked up MT he started off staying a smidge unperpowerd and got maybbe a bit weaker in the 1st level or 2, but after the 4th level of MT he easily equaled the single classed casters, and now here at 15th level with 9 levels of MT he just rules. And this is a bad level for him since the single classed just got 8th level spells and he still only has 6th level. </p><p></p><p>The thing is when it comes to his wizard magic he's just not that much weaker than the singe classed wizard(actually wizard/loremaster) Yeah right now he's down 2 spell levels but hey most his spells hit almost as hard, so sure in a toe to toe battle or a really combat heavy game he might be coming up short. But overall he helps the party far more than either the cleric or the wizard/loremaster does.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shard O'Glase, post: 1551267, member: 1134"] I've never met anyone who played the class for more than a couple levels say anything other than that they are overpowered. I freely admit my experiences may not be the norm etc. But for us when the character was 1st made he strted out as a cleric, he gained 2 more levels in cleric doing fairly well all the way. He had a low str compared to the other cleric since his int matered but otherwise fairly good, and heck the high int gave him a good amount of skill points so he rocked in things like diplomacy. When he pcked up wizard maybe he was a bit weaker but at these levels it really doesn't make much of a difference, though when he hit wizard level 2 and 3 he did seema smidge subpar. Once he picked up MT he started off staying a smidge unperpowerd and got maybbe a bit weaker in the 1st level or 2, but after the 4th level of MT he easily equaled the single classed casters, and now here at 15th level with 9 levels of MT he just rules. And this is a bad level for him since the single classed just got 8th level spells and he still only has 6th level. The thing is when it comes to his wizard magic he's just not that much weaker than the singe classed wizard(actually wizard/loremaster) Yeah right now he's down 2 spell levels but hey most his spells hit almost as hard, so sure in a toe to toe battle or a really combat heavy game he might be coming up short. But overall he helps the party far more than either the cleric or the wizard/loremaster does. [/QUOTE]
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