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<blockquote data-quote="Cadence" data-source="post: 8737744" data-attributes="member: 6701124">Edit: Just saw the post a couple down.&nbsp; Completely agree that teaching there is one true way to solve things is awful.---I agree to a point...Insert Rant&nbsp;I certainly expect our&nbsp; stat majors and grad students to be able to derive stuff.&nbsp; But after they've shown they know what's what I'm not going to say they can't look up and use the formulas for a standard distribution or other result if they haven't done that particular derivation before themselves.&nbsp; (I'm sorry, you only &quot;proved&quot; the CLT for the binomial, and even then you glossed a lot of the MGF things, so no CLT for you!).For the humanities majors in our general education stat course I'd be happy if they could quickly calculate and interpret a sample mean for a small sample and contrast it's properties with the median, and give me the hand wavy interpretation of the standard deviation&nbsp; and some of the weaknesses it has, and use a formula correctly if given one.&nbsp; (Bonus points if they remember why we use SD instead of the mean absolute deviation).&nbsp; Making them derive the formulas for the mean and standard deviation&nbsp; of a distribution&nbsp; before sharing it with them feels like a pharmacist not letting me use a medication until I can demonstrate how to make it on my own.I'm guessing a lot of folks on here aren't stat majors?End Rant</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadence, post: 8737744, member: 6701124"] Edit: Just saw the post a couple down. Completely agree that teaching there is one true way to solve things is awful. --- I agree to a point... [I]Insert Rant[/I] I certainly expect our stat majors and grad students to be able to derive stuff. But after they've shown they know what's what I'm not going to say they can't look up and use the formulas for a standard distribution or other result if they haven't done that particular derivation before themselves. (I'm sorry, you only "proved" the CLT for the binomial, and even then you glossed a lot of the MGF things, so no CLT for you!). For the humanities majors in our general education stat course I'd be happy if they could quickly calculate and interpret a sample mean for a small sample and contrast it's properties with the median, and give me the hand wavy interpretation of the standard deviation and some of the weaknesses it has, and use a formula correctly if given one. (Bonus points if they remember why we use SD instead of the mean absolute deviation). Making them derive the formulas for the mean and standard deviation of a distribution before sharing it with them feels like a pharmacist not letting me use a medication until I can demonstrate how to make it on my own. I'm guessing a lot of folks on here aren't stat majors? [I]End Rant[/I] [/QUOTE]

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