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<blockquote data-quote="thormagni" data-source="post: 2916856" data-attributes="member: 13637"><p>I don't really understand that either. The more I think about this movie, the more disturbed I get. There is just a really creepy vibe about it, but you're stalking comment isn't far off the mark. The movie doesn't seem to think that Superman is a stalker, I think his interest is supposed to be wistful and noble, but it is really flippin' weird. </p><p></p><p>For example, there is one scene where Lois is knocked out and Superman and her boyfriend have rescued her. Superman is staring at her unconscious body intently and the boyfriend has this disturbed look on his face. Of course, Supes is x-raying her so he can say "she'll be fine" and the boyfriend's look is supposed to be worry.</p><p></p><p>But it also played, for me at least, like Superman is checkin' out her unconscious form and the boyfriend's look is like "What the hell are you doing, you sicko?" </p><p></p><p>There are just too many moments that go by where I'm thinking "If that was anyone but the good and noble Superman doing this action, it would be entirely creepy." </p><p></p><p>For example:</p><p>1) Clark Kent obviously takes his job at the Daily Planet just so he can be around Lois. He doesn't seem to do any work, just weasels around so he can be close to Lois. And he apparently keeps all his clothes in the Planet's storage closet. So he is "living" in the office.</p><p></p><p>2) When he is looking at Lois' desk, he moves some stuff to lift up a photo of her, her boyfriend and her kid. And then "accidentally" breaks the frame. But puts it back on the desk. Who rummages around someone else's desk and picks stuff up?</p><p></p><p>3) He finds out her home address by overhearing her give it to a cab driver. Then he flies out to the house and instead of going in, he just hovers outside x-ray looking through the walls, watching the family do its thing.</p><p></p><p>4) Lois gets in an elevator and heads to the roof. Clark watches her with his X-ray vision all the way up the building. Pretty soon he has to be looking at an up-the-skirt shot. </p><p></p><p>5) Knowing she has a fiance, and a kid, and that she seems to be happy, he still tries to work his super-magic on her. She says her boyfriend is a pilot and takes her to fly, and Superman says "Not like this." Like he is saying "I'm Superman woman! I can fly. And impressive stuff. You must love me." And in their little flight around town he just happens to fly right past her house. Like "look, I know where you live!"</p><p></p><p>6) When she does start showing some interest, he says "I'll be around." And it sounds like, "you never know when I'll be popping up, but I'm going to be watching you."</p><p></p><p>7) He opens a window at the family's house and flies in to watch their son sleep and talk to him.</p><p></p><p>8) SPOILER: Realizing that the kid is probably his, does Superman vow to be a good father, or to help raise this super-boy? No, he gives that stupid "I'll be around" comment again.</p><p></p><p>9) SPOILER: As I said above, the mechanics of how Superman and Lois would come to have a kid are really creepy. And remind me more of a date rape drug than a consensual relationship. 'Cause at some point, she woke up pregnant and had no idea how she got that way. How freaked out would someone be in that case?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thormagni, post: 2916856, member: 13637"] I don't really understand that either. The more I think about this movie, the more disturbed I get. There is just a really creepy vibe about it, but you're stalking comment isn't far off the mark. The movie doesn't seem to think that Superman is a stalker, I think his interest is supposed to be wistful and noble, but it is really flippin' weird. For example, there is one scene where Lois is knocked out and Superman and her boyfriend have rescued her. Superman is staring at her unconscious body intently and the boyfriend has this disturbed look on his face. Of course, Supes is x-raying her so he can say "she'll be fine" and the boyfriend's look is supposed to be worry. But it also played, for me at least, like Superman is checkin' out her unconscious form and the boyfriend's look is like "What the hell are you doing, you sicko?" There are just too many moments that go by where I'm thinking "If that was anyone but the good and noble Superman doing this action, it would be entirely creepy." For example: 1) Clark Kent obviously takes his job at the Daily Planet just so he can be around Lois. He doesn't seem to do any work, just weasels around so he can be close to Lois. And he apparently keeps all his clothes in the Planet's storage closet. So he is "living" in the office. 2) When he is looking at Lois' desk, he moves some stuff to lift up a photo of her, her boyfriend and her kid. And then "accidentally" breaks the frame. But puts it back on the desk. Who rummages around someone else's desk and picks stuff up? 3) He finds out her home address by overhearing her give it to a cab driver. Then he flies out to the house and instead of going in, he just hovers outside x-ray looking through the walls, watching the family do its thing. 4) Lois gets in an elevator and heads to the roof. Clark watches her with his X-ray vision all the way up the building. Pretty soon he has to be looking at an up-the-skirt shot. 5) Knowing she has a fiance, and a kid, and that she seems to be happy, he still tries to work his super-magic on her. She says her boyfriend is a pilot and takes her to fly, and Superman says "Not like this." Like he is saying "I'm Superman woman! I can fly. And impressive stuff. You must love me." And in their little flight around town he just happens to fly right past her house. Like "look, I know where you live!" 6) When she does start showing some interest, he says "I'll be around." And it sounds like, "you never know when I'll be popping up, but I'm going to be watching you." 7) He opens a window at the family's house and flies in to watch their son sleep and talk to him. 8) SPOILER: Realizing that the kid is probably his, does Superman vow to be a good father, or to help raise this super-boy? No, he gives that stupid "I'll be around" comment again. 9) SPOILER: As I said above, the mechanics of how Superman and Lois would come to have a kid are really creepy. And remind me more of a date rape drug than a consensual relationship. 'Cause at some point, she woke up pregnant and had no idea how she got that way. How freaked out would someone be in that case? [/QUOTE]
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