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<blockquote data-quote="thormagni" data-source="post: 2917389" data-attributes="member: 13637"><p>Yuck indeed. I should say again, that I don't think the themes I am talking about here were intentional by the filmmakers or actors. It is all meant in the "good, clean hero" way, I am sure. Maybe I'm just getting so cynical, but I just kept watching the movie and thinking that these actions, if taken by anyone other than Superman, would be disturbing.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I think there is a very real disconnect between how Americans see themselves and their ideals and the reality of what is happening here. To conservatives, the "truth, justice and American way" motto is an unabashed good thing. Except they are supporting a government that is vehemently opposed to truth, that abhors any notion of justice and is redefining the American Way to mean a place where the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and all of our civil liberties are thrown aside for the promise of protection. </p><p></p><p>When I hear them rail about protecting America, I can't help but wonder what America means to them. Is it just being the toughest? The biggest? The strongest? I just don't even relate anymore to what they consider to be the American ideal. </p><p></p><p>Which really, could be my problem with this Superman movie. Maybe I am just supposed to watch it and not think about it too deeply, accept it on its own, circular logic intact. Just like our nation's actions around the world and at home. I mean, we take actions that would be clearly labeled evil if any other nation did them, but because of our supposed innate goodness as a country, those actions are supposedly different when we do them. Much like Superman in the movie, he takes actions that would be evil if done by anyone else. But because he is Superman, I am, I guess, not supposed to see them as evil.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thormagni, post: 2917389, member: 13637"] Yuck indeed. I should say again, that I don't think the themes I am talking about here were intentional by the filmmakers or actors. It is all meant in the "good, clean hero" way, I am sure. Maybe I'm just getting so cynical, but I just kept watching the movie and thinking that these actions, if taken by anyone other than Superman, would be disturbing. Personally, I think there is a very real disconnect between how Americans see themselves and their ideals and the reality of what is happening here. To conservatives, the "truth, justice and American way" motto is an unabashed good thing. Except they are supporting a government that is vehemently opposed to truth, that abhors any notion of justice and is redefining the American Way to mean a place where the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and all of our civil liberties are thrown aside for the promise of protection. When I hear them rail about protecting America, I can't help but wonder what America means to them. Is it just being the toughest? The biggest? The strongest? I just don't even relate anymore to what they consider to be the American ideal. Which really, could be my problem with this Superman movie. Maybe I am just supposed to watch it and not think about it too deeply, accept it on its own, circular logic intact. Just like our nation's actions around the world and at home. I mean, we take actions that would be clearly labeled evil if any other nation did them, but because of our supposed innate goodness as a country, those actions are supposedly different when we do them. Much like Superman in the movie, he takes actions that would be evil if done by anyone else. But because he is Superman, I am, I guess, not supposed to see them as evil. [/QUOTE]
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