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<blockquote data-quote="thormagni" data-source="post: 2920858" data-attributes="member: 13637"><p>I don't think that is the case at all. I went in wanting to like the movie. I mean, I REALLY like superhero movies. I loved all three X-men movies and both Spider-mans. I enjoyed Batman Begins and the Fantastic Four. I'm really looking forward to Ghost Rider. So if the point is to watch the spectacle and watch comic books come to life on the big screen, I'm all for the point. </p><p></p><p>But as Feyd said above, the only way to watch this movie, I think, is from the assumption that Superman is a completely pure and good being who has none of the messy needs and drives of ordinary men. Which is to believe that everything he does is good and pure because he is an innately good and pure being. That is exceptionalism, it is terrible circular logic and I just don't see that playing anymore. Especially after introducing the fact that he DOES have human needs and desires. And especially when you have him doing creepy things. </p><p></p><p>SPOILER WARNING</p><p>I remember having a vaguely disturbed feeling throughout the whole movie. Like something was just playing wrong. But the scene that set off the avalanche for me was the one in Lois and Richard's house at the end. I was thinking "What the f*&# is he doing?" when he enters the little boy's room. In the middle of the night. Without the parents knowing. </p><p></p><p>I can't imagine that scene playing any way but creepy,ever. Even in the innocent, uncorrupted, pure and good ages of the 1940s or 1950s, that would have been creepy. What person would you want sneaking into your kid's room in the middle of the night? I can honestly say that there is NO ONE on the planet in the past or present who I would feel warm and fuzzy about after doing that. A reborn celestial being surrounded in a nimbus of holy light shows up unannounced and uninvited in my son's room at 3 a.m. and I'm going to be concerned.</p><p></p><p>After that scene snapped me out of my suspension of disbelief, I realized that he had done a LOT of vaguely disturbing things throughout the movie.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thormagni, post: 2920858, member: 13637"] I don't think that is the case at all. I went in wanting to like the movie. I mean, I REALLY like superhero movies. I loved all three X-men movies and both Spider-mans. I enjoyed Batman Begins and the Fantastic Four. I'm really looking forward to Ghost Rider. So if the point is to watch the spectacle and watch comic books come to life on the big screen, I'm all for the point. But as Feyd said above, the only way to watch this movie, I think, is from the assumption that Superman is a completely pure and good being who has none of the messy needs and drives of ordinary men. Which is to believe that everything he does is good and pure because he is an innately good and pure being. That is exceptionalism, it is terrible circular logic and I just don't see that playing anymore. Especially after introducing the fact that he DOES have human needs and desires. And especially when you have him doing creepy things. SPOILER WARNING I remember having a vaguely disturbed feeling throughout the whole movie. Like something was just playing wrong. But the scene that set off the avalanche for me was the one in Lois and Richard's house at the end. I was thinking "What the f*&# is he doing?" when he enters the little boy's room. In the middle of the night. Without the parents knowing. I can't imagine that scene playing any way but creepy,ever. Even in the innocent, uncorrupted, pure and good ages of the 1940s or 1950s, that would have been creepy. What person would you want sneaking into your kid's room in the middle of the night? I can honestly say that there is NO ONE on the planet in the past or present who I would feel warm and fuzzy about after doing that. A reborn celestial being surrounded in a nimbus of holy light shows up unannounced and uninvited in my son's room at 3 a.m. and I'm going to be concerned. After that scene snapped me out of my suspension of disbelief, I realized that he had done a LOT of vaguely disturbing things throughout the movie. [/QUOTE]
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